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20:08 [@Q] [@Tutor] [ Qba]
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20:08 < Qba> hi all ;-/
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20:09 <@Tutor> Hello and welcome to QuakeNet’s third tutorial session. This tutorial is dedicated towards QuakeNet's older channel service bot, Q. [L1]
20:09 <@Tutor> We will regularly pause this session for you to ask any questions that you may have, regarding the material. [L2]
20:09 <@Tutor> If you have a question, please type /msg Tutor <your question here>. Use the line numbers to indicate which part your question relates to. [L3]
20:09 <@Tutor> This channel is moderated, which means you cannot talk in here. Also, please note that this channel is in auditorium mode. This means that you cannot see the other users in this channel, but don't be afraid, you are not the only person in this channel. [L4]
20:09 <@Tutor> Please ONLY send questions to me (Tutor). I will relay them to the Quakenet staff that will answer your questions. The staff members present in this channel CANNOT see any messages of any type you send directly to them. [L5]
20:09 <@Tutor> Note: For those who missed the last tutorial, we are hoping to have it uploaded to the website as soon as possible. [L6]
20:10 <@Tutor> We'll start this week by revisiting the registration process. [L7]
20:10 <@Tutor> To register with Q, type "/msg Q HELLO <your@email> <your@email>". You need to type your email address twice to make sure you have typed it correctly. Your account name will be your nick at the time you say hello. You should only ever need to register once. [L8]
20:10 <@Tutor> Note that you may need to change your nickname (with the /NICK command) if the account name you want is already taken, or if your nickname contains special characters which are not allowed in account names (ie: `~^[]{}|_\). [L9]
20:11 <@Tutor> Q will send an email containing your new account details. We advise you read this email carefully as it contains important information about protecting your account. [L10]
20:11 <@Tutor> You can now change your password to something more memorable (but please, not easily guessable), by using "/msg Q NEWPASS <old_password> <new_password> <new_password>". You need to repeat your new password so we are sure you have typed it correctly. [L11]
20:11 <@Tutor> You will need to "auth" with Q each time you reconnect to the network in order to use your account. [L12]
20:11 >> URL 44 stored
20:11 <@Tutor> If you are using mIRC, and want help to automate the authentication process, then please see "http://www.quakenet.org/faq/faq.php?c=160&f=165#165". [L13]
20:11 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L14]
20:12 <@Tutor> nbuu asked: is it possible to delete my account?
20:12 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no, you'll wait until it expires
20:12 [Users #tutorial]
20:12 [@Q] [@Tutor] [ Qba]
20:12 (!) Irssi: #tutorial: Total of 3 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal]
20:12 <@Tutor> Silly asked: why do you have to specify an email adress at all? [L8]
20:12 <@Tutor> Jack answers: to get your password if you lose it for example
20:13 <@Tutor> xy-bed asked: hi what is Q?
20:13 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's a bot. This tutorial will give you further information on Q, hopefully by the end you will understand what Q is and what it's capable of.
20:13 <@Tutor> NoXiD asked: Can i change my name in Q?
20:13 <@Tutor> illusion answers: no you cannot change your Q authnick
20:13 <@Tutor> super8|nofun asked: how long does it takes before an accout expires then?
20:13 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: A Q account expires after 40 days of non-use
20:13 <@Tutor> FacYa asked: Its possible that other ppl get your password ?
20:13 <@Tutor> Jack answers: not if you do what the security FAQ says usually
20:13 <@Tutor> mimamau asked: is it possible to rename my Q account?
20:13 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, you must create a new account.
20:14 <@Tutor> esak asked: why can i reguest Q only for clan channels ?
20:14 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's one of the rules set out by the QuakeNet staff for Q. L is availble for every other channel.
20:14 <@Tutor> bb`Scarlet`Away asked: will Q be replaced soon with a bot called S?
20:14 <@Tutor> illusion answers: S is another service and will not replace Q or L
20:14 <@Tutor> Mirveh asked: is there a privacy police regarding our email address!
20:14 <@Tutor> Deeps answers: QuakeNet does not use your email address for any purposes other than password retrieval.
20:14 <@Tutor> Feh asked: Rogue1 answers: A Q account expires after 40 days of non-use << not authed or not re-authed?
20:14 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: not authed
20:15 <@Tutor> jeriko asked: am I right if i assert that there is no way to 'hack' Q accounts?
20:15 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Yes. It is, however, possible to trick people into giving away their password. This will be covered later.
20:15 >> URL 45 stored
20:15 <@Tutor> Like L, Q is used to protect your channel from takeovers. It is designed for larger channels however, and as such is harder to request. See the Q FAQ at http://www.quakenet.org/ for more details. Please note, Q is currently not available for request. This is only temporary, and we hope to have it available again soon. [L15]
20:15 <@Tutor> Once you have Q you will obviously need to know how to use it. We'll give a short introduction here and move onto more detailed use later on in the tutorial. Remember, your main source of advice is the Q FAQ. [L16]
20:15 <@Tutor> To be able to use Q, you must be obviously be authed with it. This has to be done every time your client connects to QuakeNet. Once authed you will be able to send commands to Q: /msg Q <command>. You can also retrieve help on any command using /msg Q HELP <command>. Commands may be listed with /msg Q SHOWCOMMANDS. [L17]
20:16 <@Tutor> The main use of Q is to protect your channel and to auto-op/voice any people that you tell it to. This is done by giving people what is known as a 'CHANLEV'. This is a collection of flags that you can give a user, which determine their privileges on that channel. [L18]
20:16 <@Tutor> Available CHANLEV flags for Q are: a = auto, b = ban, m = master, n = owner, o = channel operator, t = topic changer, v = voice. Flags are combined to determine how Q behaves when the user enters the channel. [L19]
20:16 <@Tutor> Giving a user +v or +o on its own will not appear to do anything. They must be combined with +a to automatically voice or op the user upon joining, e.g. to auto-op you must use +ao. [L20]
20:16 <@Tutor> CHANLEVs are set using /msg Q CHANLEV <channel> <nickname> +|-flags. If the user is offline, you may replace <nickname> with #<auth name>. [L21]
20:16 <@Tutor> The master and owner flags are different. They determine a user's ability to alter people's CHANLEVs and recover the channel after a takeover. Owners have full control over the bot, so be VERY careful when adding new owners - i.e. DO NOT add new owners unless you completely trust the user. Masters however can add or remove people, but cannot touch anybody with the master or owner flag. Again, only give this to people you completely trust. [L22]
20:16 <@Tutor> We will visit some of the CHANLEV flags later on in this tutorial, however now we will pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L23]
20:17 <@Tutor> Farami asked: L19 What's with the 'g' flag ?
20:17 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it doesn't exist on Q
20:17 <@Tutor> C-R|hYbr1d asked: Can you unauth yourself after authing without disconnecting?
20:17 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: no, you can't
20:17 <@Tutor> [J4F]Anopheles asked: there is a chanlev flag "g" - what is it?
20:17 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: +g is for auto-voice and is only available on L
20:17 <@Tutor> icy_ asked: can i become Q? [L15]
20:17 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: aslong as you aren't a computer program you CAN'T become Q
20:18 <@Tutor> eqU- asked: Why L is better than Q ?
20:18 <@Tutor> illusion answers: L is the leightweight version of Q and needs less traffic and ressources. So we can add L to more channels than Q
20:18 <@Tutor> Joy asked: how can we now the auth name of a user ? [L21]
20:18 <@Tutor> Jack answers: /msg Q whois nickname
20:18 <@Tutor> hebo asked: how I can change my auth name?
20:18 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: That's not possible
20:18 <@Tutor> KkN-Xhumer asked: What's the meaning of a "Q-Ban" ?
20:18 <@Tutor> repiV answers: a "Q-Ban" is a ban you place through Q using the +b chanlev or the /msg Q BAN command
20:18 <@Tutor> Troublemaker asked: when will the q request come back ?
20:18 <@Tutor> Salt answers: As just mentioned in the tutorial, as soon as possible.
20:19 <@Tutor> foo` asked: L19 what is the difference of owner and master?
20:19 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Owners can add and remove owners and masters. Masters cannot.
20:19 <@Tutor> jenx asked: how do i get auth level more than 255
20:19 <@Tutor> Jack answers: you won't get anything like that on this network i guess
20:19 <@Tutor> Sweeney^ asked: what regulations must you meet before you can recieve/ask for a Q?
20:19 <@Tutor> Deeps answers: A 15 user average over 2 weeks and 25 users in the channel at the time of request.
20:19 <@Tutor> Vegeta` asked: Only big channels are allowed to have Q. Why do small channels like #utirc have Q, then?
20:19 <@Tutor> repiV answers: They will have had Q for a long time as in the past the requirements were different
20:19 <@Tutor> Revolutio asked: what are the chanflag +a?
20:19 <@Tutor> illusion answers: just ignore that channelflag
20:20 <@Tutor> FacYa asked: Its possible to takeover channels without any chanlev on Q ?
20:20 <@Tutor> Jack answers: well, you can always "recover" it if the takeover guy doesn't have any flags
20:20 <@Tutor> Dartje asked: can you use both l and q in the channel? or if you have enough load you replace q automaticly ?
20:20 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: If you have Q on your channel, there is no need for L
20:20 <@Tutor> andy-d asked: What is Q9 ?
20:20 <@Tutor> Deeps answers: Q9 is the newest version of Q. It is currently being tested, and will be implemented once it is sure to be stable.
20:20 <@Tutor> Now that you have added users to Q, you will need to know how to recover your channel in the event of a takeover. [L24]
20:21 <@Tutor> Firstly, we cannot stress enough that you should only give channel operator status to people you trust completely. [L25]
20:21 <@Tutor> In the event that somebody does take over your channel, the best way to recover it is to contact the owner/master (people with +n or +m CHANLEV). [L26]
20:21 <@Tutor> Once you have contacted the owner/master, they may use the following commands to recover the channel: /MSG Q DEOPALL <channel>, /MSG Q UNBANALL <channel> and finally /MSG Q CLEARCHAN <channel>. This will deop everybody in the channel and remove and bans or channel flags that prevent you from entering. [L27]
20:21 <@Tutor> Anybody with a CHANLEV of at least +o can attempt to recover the channel, however they can only use UNBANALL and CLEARCHAN. As such, this is not always as effective. [L28]
20:21 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L29]
20:22 <@Tutor> Anesthesia^ asked: is Q only given stricly to gaming chans, or can I have Q to my 100 users chan (L is becoming small)?
20:22 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Q is only for gaming-related channels
20:22 <@Tutor> Null asked: can you tell me something about the features of the new Q?
20:22 <@Tutor> illusion answers: this tutorial is about Q, there will be tutorials and guides for Q9 when it is avialable
20:22 <@Tutor> Troublemaker asked: can I buy a Q ? I'll give u 100$
20:22 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no, we're non-commercial.
20:23 <@Tutor> FacYa asked: Its possible to LOG Channels with Q for statistic as exp.?
20:23 <@Tutor> Jack answers: there are other ways to get chanstats, it's not needed on Q
20:23 <@Tutor> |DF|CraXs asked: can i move a q to another channel?
20:23 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Not currently, as the Q request is temporarily disabled.
20:23 <@Tutor> Dartje asked: are there limits on the number of flagged accounts in q ?
20:23 <@Tutor> Deeps answers: There is no limit for Q.
20:23 <@Tutor> ewoud asked: what is the auth-level?
20:23 <@Tutor> illusion answers: authlevel 0 are un-authed users, authlevel 1 have authlevel 1 and everything above 1 is a staff member/bot
20:24 <@Tutor> sPecter asked: if Q isin a channel where noon idle , can i get Q owner on this channel ??
20:24 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: No, you will need to wait for the Q to expire
20:25 <@Tutor> icy_ asked: last week i got a msg from Q to type "/msg Q-Serve recover myauth mypw" because someone authed with my pw. now i cant auth anymore... why did Q do this to me?
20:25 <@Tutor> Jack answers: our Q is always called Q.
20:25 <@Tutor> We will now explain how Q can be used to enforce bans on your channel. [L30]
20:25 <@Tutor> You may have noticed above that Q provides an extra CHANLEV, when compared to L. This is the +b or ban flag. When this is given to a user, Q will automatically ban (and kick) them whenever they enter the channel. [L31]
20:25 <@Tutor> Another way to enforce a permanent ban is to use /msg Q BAN <channel> <host mask>. Host masks were covered in the last tutorial (i.e. nick!ident@host). When a permanent ban is set in this fashion any user matched by the specified host mask will be banned upon entering the channel. [L32]
20:25 <@Tutor> Permanent bans may be listed at any time with /msg Q BANLIST <channel>, and removed with /MSG Q BANDEL <channel> <host mask|#id> (you can enter either a host mask or the ban's ID which is obtained with the BANLIST command). It is worth noting that all permanent bans may be cleared at any time with /msg Q BANCLEAR <channel> (UNBANALL only clears temporary bans). [L33]
20:26 <@Tutor> /msg Q BANDEL can be a useful way of recovering a channel without removing all other bans that you have set. It is also worth noting that /msg Q BAN will instantly kick any users in the channel matching the host mask that was banned, so be careful when using this command. [L34]
20:26 <@Tutor> Only users with the +m/+n (master/owner) CHANLEV may add permanent bans (via +b CHANLEV of /msg Q BAN) to a channel, and likewise only they can remove them. [L35]
20:26 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L36]
20:26 <@Tutor> soh-unununium asked: How can I check the auth-level of a user ?
20:26 <@Tutor> illusion answers: /msg Q whois ircnick or /msg Q whois #authnick | and sorry correct is: authlevel 1 are for authed users
20:27 <@Tutor> boomeH|aweh asked: how can i check the auth-level of a user
20:27 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: /msg Q whois nick or /msg Q whois #accountname
20:27 <@Tutor> |FJ|Jackal asked: whats the difference between masters and owners?
20:27 <@Tutor> Jack answers: owners can add/remove masters and other owners
20:27 <@Tutor> iL|AntiUber asked: can many users have +n on the same Q or L ?
20:27 <@Tutor> repiV answers: There is no limit to the amount of people who can have +n on a channel
20:27 <@Tutor> myst asked: Why we cannot see the L flags of a User like Q ?
20:27 <@Tutor> illusion answers: due to security reasons, L is for internal, secret channels too
20:27 <@Tutor> Eidsten asked: Can I get my vhost to be somting like userser.quakenet.org `?
20:27 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Set mode +x on yourself while authed to hide your real host
20:28 <@Tutor> Gram|NZ asked: L35 Can +o OPs add a Q ban? I'm pretty sure one of my fellow ops did this
20:28 <@Tutor> Deeps answers: No, only +m masters / +n owners can add Q bans.
20:28 <@Tutor> Neo_ asked: can I get chanserv on my channel?
20:28 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: no, we don't have chanserv on QuakeNet, get L or Q instead
20:28 <@Tutor> Xstus asked: where can I find a list of all q commands
20:28 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: /msg Q showcommands
20:28 <@Tutor> GsUUUus asked: Why is the Q-Reqeust currently down? Cause needin' Q really for our clanchanflags !
20:28 <@Tutor> Salt answers: You can use L with an eggdrop, that is as capable as Q is.
20:29 <@Tutor> klm asked: how to ban difinitivly someone with +x mode ?
20:29 <@Tutor> Jack answers: /mode #channel +b *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org (use the guy's authname instead of "authname")
20:29 >> URL 46 stored
20:29 <@Tutor> mcsmurf asked: but when i whois myself, i get mcsmurf mcsmurf@ACB3612C.ipt.aol.com 172.179.97.44 Actual user@host, Actual IP; so that doesn't really hide it, does it. [L36]
20:29 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Other users will not see that information
20:29 <@Tutor> tinker- asked: hi ima geek, and would like to know, if i have a room with Q in, does that mean i 0wn it?
20:29 <@Tutor> Salt answers: If you have the +n flag there, then it can be said you 'own' it.
20:30 <@Tutor> Ti-MoB_K-Dog asked: how can i ban the auth nick ?
20:30 <@Tutor> illusion answers: you can ban a user with his authnick using /mode #chan +b *!*@authnick.users.quakenet.org (no matter if he has +x or not) or you use /msg Q chanlev #channel #authnick +b
20:30 <@Tutor> There is another set of flags that can be set using Q, these are CHANFLAGs. [L37]
20:30 <@Tutor> These determine how Q behaves when people join the channel, obtain or lose ops or voice, or change the topic. The flags are viewed or set by using /msg Q CHANFLAGS <channel> [[+|-]<flags>]. [L38]
20:31 <@Tutor> The CHANFLAGs available are: b = bitch mode, c = channel limit, f = force topic, k = force key, l = force limit, p = protect ops, t = topic save, w = welcome message. [L39]
20:31 <@Tutor> When bitch mode is set (CHANFLAG +b), Q will automatically deop or devoice any users which are opped/voiced and do NOT have a CHANLEV on Q. This is a good way of preventing takeovers. [L40]
20:31 <@Tutor> The channel limit setting (CHANFLAG +c) may be used to prevent join floods. It automatically sets the channel limit every 5 minutes. The AUTOLIMIT command is used in conjunction with this to determine the new channel limit. /msg Q AUTOLIMIT <channel> <#limit>, where new limit = current limit + #limit. Make sure CHANFLAG +l is NOT set when using Q's autolimit features. [L41]
20:31 <@Tutor> Forcing the topic with Q (CHANFLAG +f) prevents people from changing the topic with the /TOPIC command. Instead you must use /msg Q SETTOPIC <channel> <topic>. You must be a channel owner/master or have +t CHANLEV to use this command. [L42]
20:31 <@Tutor> Q also allows you for force a key on the channel (CHANFLAG +k), which prevents people from removing the channel key. Use /msg Q KEY <channel> [<key>] to view or change the current key. [L43]
20:31 <@Tutor> When CHANFLAG +l is set, Q forces a permanent (and fixed) limit on the channel. Use /msg Q LIMIT <channel> <limit> to set it. This CHANFLAG must not be used in conjunction with CHANFLAG +c. [L44]
20:32 <@Tutor> Protecting channel operators (CHANFLAG p) is another useful feature of Q's, which can help prevent channel takeovers. When a user with +o CHANLEV is deopped, Q will automatically op the user. [L45]
20:32 <@Tutor> Another useful feature of Q's is the topic save facility (CHANFLAG +t). This allows Q to automatically set the topic, should Q be restarted. [L46]
20:32 <@Tutor> The last CHANFLAG allows Q to display a welcome message to people joining the channel (CHANFLAG +w). Use /msg Q WELCOME <channel> <message> to set the welcome message. [L47]
20:32 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L48]
20:32 <@Tutor> C-R|hYbr1d asked: I was told that doing /msg John myauth mypass <- would give me control of Q in many rooms. Was i tricked??
20:32 >> URL 47 stored
20:32 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: yes, never send your password to anyone except Q@Cserve.quakenet.org
20:32 <@Tutor> [-H4CK_Z3R0-] asked: Why is p = protect ops ? isn't it private ?
20:32 <@Tutor> magpie answers: +p means private when we talk about a channel mode. Here we are talking about a Q CHANFLAG however.
20:33 <@Tutor> jfs asked: on L43, why can you set a key when Q is not for private channels?
20:33 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: There's no technical limitation stopping you putting +k on a channel with Q, but we may remove the Q if we discover you doing this
20:33 <@Tutor> aZ^XeD][coookie asked: do i have to kick L before requesting Q?
20:33 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Yes. But the Q request isn't working at the moment, so stick with L for the time being.
20:33 <@Tutor> FRedDy\DWLMLA asked: What is chan mode +D? Is that a Q function or anything?
20:33 <@Tutor> Jack answers: read our IRC FAQ on www.quakenet.org, it's not a Q feature
20:34 <@Tutor> sHakEr asked: Is it possible to change my Q auth nick without making a new account?
20:34 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: no, that's not possible
20:34 <@Tutor> Blem asked: can you report people trying to scam auth nicks? or should they just be ignored?
20:34 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Well, you'd best ban them from your channels, put them on ignore and report it to #feds (if possible).
20:34 <@Tutor> WiLLoW asked: Is it possible to give others halfop?
20:34 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Halfops are not supported on Quakenet
20:35 <@Tutor> Fragmaster asked: [19:31:04] <Tutor> aZ^XeD][coookie asked: do i have to kick L before requesting Q? || u cant kick/deop/kill L
20:35 <@Tutor> illusion answers: you have to kick L before you can request Q, read the FAQ at www.quakenet.org to see how to "kick" L
20:35 <@Tutor> Asis^cs asked: How do i ban a person with Q ?
20:35 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Give them the +b CHANLEV or use /msg Q BAN. /msg Q HELP CHANLEV, and /msg Q HELP BAN for more details.
20:36 <@Tutor> Xstus asked: Why does L exist when Q is all you need
20:36 <@Tutor> Jack answers: not every channel can get Q
20:36 <@Tutor> sHakEr asked: Can I deauth myself, and if so how?
20:36 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: The only way to de-auth is to quit the network and rejoin
20:36 <@Tutor> dh|plague asked: how do i gain ops with Q ?
20:36 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: /msg Q requestop #your_channel
20:37 <@Tutor> In the final part of this tutorial, we reiterate the importance of security awareness on QuakeNet. [L49]
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20:37 <@Tutor> IRC can be a dangerous place. There are a number of basic precautions you should take to protect you from "hackers" and other troublemakers. [L50]
20:37 <@Tutor> Do not give out personal information to strangers on IRC (ie. telephone numbers, address) unless you are 100^ertain that you can trust them. In particular, if you are under 16, PLEASE speak to your parents of guardian before giving this information out on IRC. [L51]
20:37 <@Tutor> IRC clients generally ask you for a real name. mIRC asks you for this in a 'full name' field you can find in " File --> Options --> Connect --> Full Name ". This information is visible to other users and as such it is advisable to not put your real name in this field. [L52]
20:37 <@Tutor> Do not give out your Q password (if you have one) to anybody. Quakenet staff will NEVER ask you for this password. [L53]
20:37 <@Tutor> Do not ever type anything that begins with a / that you do not understand the meaning of. Be especially careful if the command includes strange characters or "$decode". [L54]
20:38 <@Tutor> Please be very careful with links that people offer you on IRC. While some people will offer harmless programs, others are trying to make you download programs that will harm your computer. Be particularly careful if they offer you things that appear too good to be true (like halving your ping, free ops on channels, etc.). [L55]
20:38 <@Tutor> Some people try to offer you 'free bouncer services'. However, because you are then bouncing your IRC connection off a computer run by them, they can see everything you type on IRC. Not only is this an invasion of your privacy, but they can also capture your Q password. [L56]
20:38 <@Tutor> Q is always called Q. All Quakenet services always have single character names, and never have punctuation in them. Be very wary of anyone with a name like `Q or Q_, they will often be trying to decieve you. [L57]
20:38 <@Tutor> Use our hidden hosts system. This is explained later in the section on registration. This prevents users from finding your computer and launching attacks directly against it. [L58]
20:38 <@Tutor> Keep the operating system on your computer up to date. For Windows users, run Windows Update regularly and apply any security patches which are available. [L59]
20:38 <@Tutor> Keep your IRC client up to date. All mIRC versions less than version 6 have known security problems that can allow other people to control your client over IRC. Please regularly check that your version is up to date. [L60]
20:39 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L61]
20:39 <@Tutor> Fragmaster asked: u g2 do a tutorial for F, O and S aswell
20:39 <@Tutor> Jack answers: there are no real usercommands except requestop, so it wouldn't make sense
20:39 <@Tutor> I gave a wrong answer earlyer, to request op in a channel, use: /msg Q op #channel
20:39 <@Tutor> mgtatdev asked: why is it necessary to remove L before requesting Q? that means the channel would be unsecure… espiecailly when the Q request is refused
20:39 <@Tutor> Darko answers: If everything works out you won't need to remove L. Instead, it will automatically part when Q joins the channel.
20:40 <@Tutor> [DommE] asked: what is $decode
20:40 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's a function in mIRC to encode and decode text. It's used by auth hackers to hide the real meaning of code they want you to run.
20:40 <@Tutor> melfice asked: can i unset a ban against me without being in the chan (have the +ao flag) ???
20:40 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Use /msg Q UNBANALL #channel
20:40 <@Tutor> icy_ asked: i had a Q in my channel... now its gone.. someone said the people from #feds took it away because they wanted a Q in their channel.... can I get my Q back?
20:40 <@Tutor> illusion answers: #feds can remove a Q, but they won't do that to set it somewhere else, talk to #help why your Q is gone
20:40 <@Tutor> foo` asked: L39 what is bitch mode?
20:40 <@Tutor> Jack answers: read L40
20:41 <@Tutor> gbc|MrBurns asked: why doesnt L have a ban command like Q. It would be great and make the chan secure
20:41 <@Tutor> Salt answers: As mentioned earlier, you can use the *!*@username.users.quakenet.org to ban any auth name from your channel, even if they don't set the usermode +x.
20:41 <@Tutor> H1M asked: when Q will be up ?
20:41 <@Tutor> illusion answers: Q is up and running, try /names #tutorial if you cannot see it
20:41 <@Tutor> hanzwurst asked: When a user is banned against his quakenet-host, but did not set +x, will the ban still have effect?
20:41 <@Tutor> Jack answers: if he's still authed, it'll work
20:41 <@Tutor> Ho-Low asked: is there bitch mode in L
20:41 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No.
20:41 <@Tutor> [-H4CK_Z3R0-] asked: Is it illegal to trick anyone to get their authNICK or authPW ?
20:41 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: yes, that is illegal
20:41 <@Tutor> o4`off`Mike asked: many overtakes occure at the moment , and the main reason is that many users have little passwords , so they are easy to hack. i try to explain to many peeps they should put good q passwords not to be hacked , but they dont understand ... Could quake
20:42 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: It is important to set a Q password that is not liable to being guessed or brute-forced. However, it's generally more important to avoid falling for simplistic tricks designed to reveal your password to another user.
20:42 <@Tutor> Jaguar asked: are u allowed Q in a channel that only has 3 people in it ? like say a channel opened 4 years ago and has q but only 1 person uses the channel would u have to remove their q?
20:42 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: This problem can be solved by asking an operator in #feds
20:43 <@Tutor> [LG]Locst0r asked: Our Owner has lost his Q-Account and we´re only masters now ... can someone of the masters get owner ?
20:43 <@Tutor> illusion answers: if there is really _no_ owner left, you can go to #feds but if an owner's account was comprimsed they won't help you
20:43 <@Tutor> We have now reached the end of this Quakenet #tutorial session, thank you for coming. [L62]
20:44 <@Tutor> We would like to thank the people that helped make this tutorial possible : [L63]
20:44 <@Tutor> The operator and helper staff that helped to draft this tutorial, and are in #help and #feds to answer your questions. [L64]
20:44 <@Tutor> The tutors that have helped answer your questions here tonight. [L65]
20:44 <@Tutor> And finally we would appreciate any feedback you can provide. Please as this session ends, send any feedback you may have to me, just as you would have sent previous questions. [L66]
20:44 <@Tutor> This concludes tonight's session. Check the website for details of future sessions as they become available. [L67]
20:44 <@Tutor> Good night, and thanks for attending. [L68]
20:45 <@Tutor> ewoud asked: can I download Q for my own IRC network?
20:45 >> URL 48 stored
20:45 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Q is available to download at http://dev-com.quakenet.org. Getting it from other sites may not be the same one as ours.
20:45 <@Tutor> [IpL]Stealth asked: To become an Operator in a channel automatically as soon as you join it, can that only happen if the owner of the channel does it for you?
20:45 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Yes, the channel owner must give you the flags +ao
20:45 <@Tutor> Fragmaster asked: can ircops and staff find out ur real IP and g-lines r found this way... not using there hostmask (otherwise someone could auth lots of times and make 1000s of clones)
20:45 <@Tutor> Jack answers: yeah, the server still knows the real host, too
20:45 <@Tutor> Bum- asked: what's the quaknet website?
20:45 >> URL 49 stored
20:45 <@Tutor> Salt answers: http://www.quakenet.org
20:45 <@Tutor> |FJ|Jackal asked: Should I use +x if I have a firewall?
20:45 <@Tutor> illusion answers: +x hides your IP, so you should use it if you want to be more secure
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20:46 <@Tutor> Asis^cs asked: How many people should stay on a channel to get Q ? And for how long ?
20:46 <@Tutor> Jack answers: read the Q FAQ about the requirements
20:46 <@Tutor> Aktalak asked: Whats the Quakenet website ?
20:46 >> URL 50 stored
20:46 <@Tutor> magpie answers: http://www.quakenet.org
20:46 <@Tutor> e` asked: Whats the limit of Q-Chanflags a user is able to have?
20:46 <@Tutor> repiV answers: There is none (assuming you mean chanlevs, likewise)
20:47 <@Tutor> mcsmurf asked: is there a bot named O. [L67]
20:47 <@Tutor> Rogue1 answers: Yes. O can op you in a channel where nobody is opped. To use this feature, type /msg O requestop #channel
20:48 <@Tutor> Fuur`afk asked: What is the original idea about +x ?
20:48 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it was made to hide real hosts/IPs
20:48 <@Tutor> ev0l\\Tyl\afk asked: hi, how do i move my Q bot from a place to another?
20:48 <@Tutor> illusion answers: you can move Q when the Q request system is up again (no ETA!)
20:49 <@Tutor> Tc^Rebsdorf asked: what is the requirements 2 get a Q Bot in a chan?
20:49 <@Tutor> repiV answers: 25 people in your channel on request, 15 of them as an average over 2 weeks, 4 operators, a gaming related channel and a good website
20:49 <@Tutor> HUND asked: y have so chans lieke #kick Q? they kick and Bann everyone on joining, thats crazy
20:49 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Before we had L, the requirements for Q were different as it was the only available bot. If the channels had Q before L came along, they were allowed to keep Q.
20:49 <@Tutor> Xerxes^ asked: how can i set +x?
20:49 <@Tutor> Jack answers: read our IRC FAQ about those modes
20:50 <@Tutor> Asis^cs asked: Why is it called lightweigt ?
20:50 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Because it has less features than Q (covered in this tutorial) however still does the basics of channel management.
20:50 <@Tutor> mm asked: [qauth security] since neither e-mail (smtp) nor irc is encrypted, isn't it still (in theory) possible for a cracker to grab a password if he, for example, has gained access to a system through which the traffic will pass (at an isp for example)?
20:50 <@Tutor> illusion answers: you are supposed to change your password after you get the email
20:50 <@Tutor> Silly asked: are there any secret cool Q commands? like /msg L cow
20:50 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no need to know as you can't use them =)
20:51 <@Tutor> robbe^ asked: how do I set +x on myself?
20:51 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: auth with Q, and then /mode your_nick +x
20:51 <@Tutor> jeriko asked: why do u call auth stealer 'hacker'? Q acc. cannot be hacked...
20:51 <@Tutor> Darko answers: We don't. Users do.
20:51 <@Tutor> XX5|PaT asked: do u need the Q bot ?
20:51 <@Tutor> repiV answers: noone needs any bot, but its useful for controlling large channels - for small to medium size channels, L is fine
20:52 <@Tutor> Asis^cs asked: Can Q be used to automaticly ban spamers and so on ?
20:52 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, there is no such feature in Q.
20:53 <@Tutor> Bum- asked: Can i buy a Q?
20:53 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: no, you can't
20:53 <@Tutor> e` asked: If someone is spamming my q-account with +b flags and i have i.e. 200 of them, will opers remove those flags?
20:53 <@Tutor> illusion answers: probably they will
20:54 <@Tutor> Fuur`afk asked: But cant it be misused (+x), so if they were banned on a channel. Are they still banned when they get the +x
20:54 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: yes, if they are still in the banlist, they won't be able to rejoin
20:54 <@Tutor> Fry^^ asked: what is +b flag ?
20:54 <@Tutor> magpie answers: +b CHANLEV will cause Q to automatically ban any user authed with that account, upon joining your channel.
20:54 <@Tutor> k`4f|luckz asked: what can i do against people trying to overtake my chan using Q ?
20:54 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: only give Q-flags to people you fully trust
20:55 <@Tutor> TRBwc3`ZeL asked: How do i get authed
20:55 <@Tutor> Salt answers: That was the first section in this tutorial. If you missed it, see /msg q help hello and /msg q help auth.
20:55 <@Tutor> mgtatdev asked: just for information … can users do anything for helping quakenet?
20:55 <@Tutor> Jack answers: they can obey our network rules and enforce them by banning advertisers etc.
20:55 <@Tutor> eqU- asked: Q = Qcon , or what ?!? plz answer me
20:55 <@Tutor> Jack answers: Q == Q
20:56 <@Tutor> Duran asked: Can i ban someone over L , like the Q ban ?
20:56 <@Tutor> Kr3L1S answers: no, L doesn't have that feature
20:56 <@Tutor> Azaghal asked: why do you just gave gamingrelated channel Q? there are also some large channels, who need Q and also some of them are not gaming related but they have the bot
20:56 <@Tutor> repiV answers: because quakenet has hundreds of thousands of channels and Q can't be in all of them
20:56 <@Tutor> Limu^away asked: When did qnet allow eggdrops to secure chans instead of Q/L?
20:56 <@Tutor> illusion answers: you are allowed to secure your channel with an eggdrop, but L and Q should be used too, because you cannotdeop/kick them
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19:57 (!) Topic for #tutorial: QuakeNet tutorial channel - Tonight's topic: Introduction to channel management and L | Please ONLY send questions to Tutor - /MSG Tutor <your question here> | Please keep your questions relevant to this tutorial
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20:01 <@Tutor> Hello and welcome to tonight's QuakeNet tutorial session. This tutorial provides a more advanced look at channel management through channel modes, bans, etc. [L1]
20:01 <@Tutor> We will regularly pause this session for you to ask any questions that you may have, regarding the material. [L2]
20:01 <@Tutor> If you have a question, please type /msg Tutor <your question here>. Use the line numbers to indicate which part your question relates to. [L3]
20:01 <@Tutor> This channel is moderated, which means you cannot talk in here. Also, please note that this channel is in auditorium mode. This means that you cannot see the other users in this channel, but please don't be afraid, you are not the only person in this channel. [L4]
20:01 <@Tutor> Please ONLY send questions to me (Tutor). I will relay them to the Quakenet staff that will answer your questions. The staff members present in this channel CANNOT see any messages of any type you send directly to them. [L5]
20:02 <@Tutor> Note: For those who missed the last tutorial, we are hoping to have it uploaded to the website as soon as possible. [L6]
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20:02 <@Tutor> ----
20:02 <@Tutor> We’ll start this week by introducing the concept of a host mask. You will see why these are useful shortly. [L7]
20:02 >> URL 3 stored
20:02 <@Tutor> Every user on QuakeNet may be identified by a host mask. This consists of their nickname, their ident and finally their hostname. These different parts are stuck together as follows: nickname!ident@hostname. My host mask would be Tutor!tutor@quakenet.org. [L8]
20:02 <@Tutor> The nickname is what you would normally use to refer to the user, for example to send messages directly to the user or to elevate that user's status to voice or channel operator. The ident is another feature that is used to identify you, commonly used by bots. Finally, the hostname is your address on the internet. [L9]
20:03 <@Tutor> When specifying host masks to ban users etc., there are certain "wildcards" that can be used. Wildcards available on QuakeNet are ? and *. * will match any characters and ? will match any single character. [L10]
20:03 <@Tutor> Last week we talked about use of the /BAN command. We showed /BAN <channel> <nickname> as it's syntax. It is actually more advanced than this. You can also use /BAN <channel> <host mask>. This allows you to ban all users with the same ident (/BAN <channel> *!ident@*), all users with the same hostname (/BAN <channel> *!*@hostname) and so on. [L11]
20:03 <@Tutor> This allows you to combat any users who change nickname to evade your bans. Note, to ban a user by their Q authname ban the following host mask: *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org. [L12]
20:03 <@Tutor> A few examples of host masks and a description of what they mean should make this clearer: [L13]
20:03 <@Tutor> foo!*@* - matches anybody with the nickname 'foo' [L14]
20:03 <@Tutor> *!bar@* - matches anybody with the ident 'bar' [L15]
20:04 <@Tutor> *!*@*.org - matches anybody with a hostname that ends with '.org'. [L16]
20:04 <@Tutor> ?????!*@*.net - matches anybody with a 5 letter nickname, and who has a hostname ending with '.net'. [L17]
20:04 <@Tutor> *!*@*.users.quakenet.org - be careful with this one. This matches ALL users authed with Q. [L18]
20:04 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L19]
20:04 >> ----
20:04 <@Tutor> ----
20:05 <@Tutor> echo221 asked: How can i ban a nick?
20:05 <@Tutor> Salt answers: See line L14
20:05 <@Tutor> Wintherz asked: are a hostmask an ip?
20:05 <@Tutor> Jack answers: well, the IP/DNS is a part of the hostmask
20:05 <@Tutor> fo3-nik5 asked: if i set mode +D and then i remove this why does the server puts mode +d ? and when will this removed ?
20:05 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: +d indicates that there are still hidden users on the channel. it will be removed as soon as all users are visible again
20:05 <@Tutor> fLaIr|NMIL asked: is it possible to ban everyone in Qnet with *!*@* ???
20:05 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: Yes, then the only ones who can join are the ones invited there by someone already in the channel. Or a QuakeNet service.
20:06 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: Is it correct that I can ban an authed user with *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org even if he hasn't set +x ?
20:06 <@Tutor> Jack answers: yes it's true
20:06 <@Tutor> DonAnA asked: can i ban L or Q ?
20:06 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no, Q and L cannot be kicked and bans that are placed on them them have no effect
20:06 <@Tutor> KaldBlod asked: what is the mode C for? (big C)
20:06 <@Tutor> magpie answers: This will be answered later on in the tutorial.
20:06 <@Tutor> Spr- asked: i didnt see the L14 how can u ban a nick ?
20:06 <@Tutor> Salt answers: 1904.08| <@Tutor> foo!*@* - matches anybody with the nickname 'foo' [L14] <-- used like /ban foo!*@*
20:07 <@Tutor> pUnK|Luke asked: Can i ban people wif certain bnc vhost then ?
20:07 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: The vhost is what the server sees as the person's hostmask. Just ban the vhost and he won't be able to enter.
20:07 <@Tutor> NW|dooffeR asked: Can you ban users permanently with L ?
20:07 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no, L (as it is a Lightweight channel service) does not support bans, use /ban
20:07 <@Tutor> dYZER asked: who can ban L
20:07 <@Tutor> Jack answers: in theory everyone can ban it, but as it's a service, it just joins through the ban and the ban is useless
20:07 <@Tutor> eS`night2k asked: can i ban S ?
20:07 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Certain people cannot be banned from channels, these are QUakeNet operators and QuakeNet services. S is a QuakeNet service.
20:08 >> ----
20:08 <@Tutor> ----
20:08 <@Tutor> This section now deals with the introduction of channel modes. [L20]
20:08 <@Tutor> Banning users is not the only way to control your channel, nor is it always the best. QuakeNet, and other IRC networks, provide modes that you can set on your channel. This is done with the /MODE command. The syntax for this command is /MODE <channel> +|-<modechars> <parameters>. [L21]
20:08 <@Tutor> For example, to set channel mode +i on this channel I would type /MODE #tutorial +i. Certain modes need parameters to work properly, and these will be discussed later. [L22]
20:09 <@Tutor> Last time we talked about the various levels within a channel, these being channel operator, voice and regular. You may op, deop, voice and devoice users with commands such as /OP, /DEOP, /VOICE and /DEVOICE (syntax being /OP <nickname>), or you can set the channel modes manually. [L23]
20:09 <@Tutor> Channel mode +o signifies op, and channel mode +v signifies voice. For example, if I was to deop myself on this channel I could type /MODE #tutorial -o Tutor. You can see here that Tutor has been specified as a parameter for the /MODE command. [L24]
20:09 <@Tutor> Likewise, channel bans are added by setting channel mode +b and removed by clearing channel mode +b with a parameter. [L25]
20:09 <@Tutor> Other useful channel modes are +c, +C, +i, +k, +n, +r, +s and +t. [L26]
20:09 <@Tutor> +c prevents the use of coloured text on a channel. [L27]
20:09 <@Tutor> +C prevents the use of channel CTCPs (e.g. /CTCP #channel VERSION). These are special messages that people can use to find out information about your client etc. [L28]
20:10 <@Tutor> +i makes your channel invite only. This means users must be invited into the channel by a channel operator before they can join. Use /invite <nickname> <channel> for this purpose. [L29]
20:10 <@Tutor> +k sets a password on your channel. Only users who know the password may join (by using /JOIN <channel> <password>). This is set by using /MODE <channel> +k <password>. [L30]
20:10 <@Tutor> +n prevents people from sending external messages to the channel, i.e. they must be on the channel itself to send messages to it. [L31]
20:10 <@Tutor> +r only allows users who have authenticated with Q to join. We spoke about Q in the last tutorial. [L32]
20:10 <@Tutor> +s makes your channel secret. People will be unable to view the users on the channel or the topic. The channel will also not show up when you /WHOIS the user or use /LIST. [L33]
20:10 <@Tutor> Finally, +t prevents people who are not channel operators from setting the topic. It is recommended you set at least channel modes +n and +t. [L34]
20:11 <@Tutor> More information about these modes (and others) is available in the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org [L35]
20:11 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L36]
20:11 >> ----
20:11 <@Tutor> ----
20:11 <@Tutor> Robin42 asked: What is the command to list the modes set on a channel?
20:11 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: /mode #channel
20:11 <@Tutor> f0rce^gone asked: how can i do temp-bans?
20:11 <@Tutor> Salt answers: A ban is set until an channel op removes it. If you use mIRC you can use the -u option to set a time that the client automatically removes the ban, I believe the format is /ban -u500 <hostmask as explained before> to remove it after 500 seconds, see /help /ban for more information.
20:11 <@Tutor> [p5]schmiede asked: What is +D?
20:11 <@Tutor> Jack answers: that's not covered here but the IRC faq at www.quakenet.org tells you about it
20:12 <@Tutor> Yakuza`CS asked: <Can I download this tutorial anywhere?>
20:12 <@Tutor> meeb answers: It will be (hopefully) posted on the website soon
20:12 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: why can't i gib someone +h (halfops) on q-net?
20:12 <@Tutor> magpie answers: QuakeNet do not support half-ops.
20:12 <@Tutor> oGTorment asked: L24 If I have +ao in a channel can I ban/op/voice with a command even if I am not present in the channel?
20:12 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: No, such commands/events requires you to be present in the channel.
20:12 <@Tutor> Center asked: what is mode +u?
20:12 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it hides quits and partmessages (like /part #channel message)
20:12 <@Tutor> Heartwork[FC] asked: If an entire channel was cut off in a net split and teh channel had +i set, would anyone be able to re-enter the channel?
20:12 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: Yes, people who were in the channel will be able to join again and people who abused the netsplit to join will get kicked out by the server.
20:12 <@Tutor> uP`na|ooze asked: What about the private mode ( what does it do? )
20:12 <@Tutor> Darko answers: The same as +s except hiding it from /LIST
20:12 <@Tutor> de`w-sX|Jo`afk asked: what is +r
20:12 <@Tutor> magpie answers: This mode, and others, are explained in the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:13 <@Tutor> pontius asked: how can i give irc users op without giving them the opportunity to kick other people?
20:13 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: That's not possible...
20:14 <@Tutor> Adonis- asked: not lal of us understand such a complicated FAQ, what does +r do?
20:14 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it just means you cannot join if you're not authed (logged in to Q)
20:14 <@Tutor> Crepper_ asked: How can I send external messages to a channel?
20:14 <@Tutor> meeb answers: you can only do this if the channel does not have +n channel mods set, if it does not you can use /msg <#channel> <message>
20:14 <@Tutor> [gL]Bot asked: Will halfop be added to Quakenet ?
20:14 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no.
20:14 <@Tutor> McD\\Flee`Off asked: how do i get cCntu ???
20:14 <@Tutor> Jack answers: /mode #channel +cCntu
20:15 >> ----
20:15 <@Tutor> ----
20:15 <@Tutor> We will now move on to the use of QuakeNet's lightweight channel service bot: L. [L37]
20:15 >> URL 5 stored
20:15 <@Tutor> To protect your channel from possible takeovers we recommend that you request the L bot. Details about how to do this are in the L FAQ at http://www.quakenet.org/ [L38]
20:15 <@Tutor> Once you have L you will obviously need to know how to use it. We'll give a short introduction here, but the main source of advice is in the L FAQ. [L39]
20:15 <@Tutor> To be able to use L, you must be authed with Q. This has to be done every time your client connects to QuakeNet. Once authed you will be able to send commands to L: /msg L <command>. You can also retreive help on any command using /msg L help <command>. [L40]
20:16 <@Tutor> The main use of L is to protect your channel and to auto-op any people that you tell it to. This is done by giving people what is known as a 'CHANLEV'. This is a collection of flags that you can give a user, which determine their privileges on that channel. [L41]
20:16 <@Tutor> Available CHANLEV flags for L are: a = auto, g = give, m = master, n = owner, o = channel operator, v = voice. Flags are combined to determine how L behaves when the user enters the channel. [L42]
20:16 <@Tutor> Giving a user +v or +o on its own will not appear to do anything. They must be combined with +g or +a respectively, to automatically voice or op the user upon joining. Note: +g only works with +v. To auto-op you must use +ao. [L43]
20:16 <@Tutor> CHANLEVs are set using /msg L CHANLEV <channel> <nickname> +|-flags. If the user is offline, you may replace <nickname> with #<auth name>. [L44]
20:16 <@Tutor> The master and owner flags are different. They determine a user's ability to alter people's CHANLEVs and recover the channel after a takeover. Owners have full control over the bot, so be VERY careful when adding new owners. Masters however can add or remove people, but cannot touch anybody with the master or owner flag. Again, only give this to people you completely trust. [L45]
20:16 <@Tutor> There will be more on L in the next tutorial. [L46]
20:17 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L47]
20:17 >> ----
20:17 <@Tutor> ----
20:17 <@Tutor> ptnplanet asked: PLS ANSWER:is there a way to let L give +v to everyone who joines my channel????????????
20:17 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No, use a script, /avoice *!*@* #channel (for you mIRC users) or an eggdrop. But autovoicing everyone could give you problems when trying to deal with annoying users.
20:17 <@Tutor> DonAnA asked: what's the difference between +a and +g ?
20:17 <@Tutor> Jack answers: +g only works with +v, +a also works with +o
20:18 <@Tutor> _Iluvatar asked: can I get the channel logs from L
20:18 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No.
20:18 <@Tutor> cc|-Berserker asked: why doesn't L set the topic again after netsplits and qhy is there no mode 2 force the topic ?
20:18 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no, L has no support for topics
20:18 <@Tutor> thom\mey asked: L is not supposed to get into channel having over 30 characters in the channel name.. what can these channels do then if they are not gaming-related?
20:18 <@Tutor> Darko answers: Destroy the idea of L being lightweight
20:19 <@Tutor> james3 asked: Will there be further commands and features added to L to make it increasingly powerful and world dominaring (sp)?
20:19 <@Tutor> meeb answers: this is not likely as L is the lightweight channel service and as such as a minimal set of commands, but enough to admin your channel properly and safely.
20:19 <@Tutor> Telbot asked: whats the difference between av and gv ?
20:19 <@Tutor> Jack answers: there's no real difference between +av and +gv
20:19 <@Tutor> vYpe`Kussmaul asked: how can i get the authname of an L-owner, when i'm not known in his channel?
20:19 <@Tutor> magpie answers: You can't.
20:19 <@Tutor> iz^D^Majki`ZzZ asked: can i change my L name acount? only change it, not register second time?
20:19 <@Tutor> magpie answers: This is not possible.
20:19 <@Tutor> Bl4ck1E asked: What, when L bans me, how to take my revenge?
20:19 <@Tutor> Jack answers: L can't ban
20:20 <@Tutor> ATF asked: wots the difference between a k-line and a g-line?
20:20 <@Tutor> meeb answers: a G-Line is a global K-Line, a K-line is a ban on one server, so a G-Line is a lot of K-Lines, one on each server, basicly a global ban from the network
20:20 >> ----
20:20 <@Tutor> ----
20:20 <@Tutor> Now that you have added users to L, you will need to know how to recover your channel in the event of a takeover. [L48]
20:20 <@Tutor> Firstly, we cannot stress enough that you should only give channel operator status to people you trust completely. [L49]
20:21 <@Tutor> In the event that somebody does take over your channel, the best way to recover it is to contact the owner/master (people with +n or +m CHANLEV). [L50]
20:21 <@Tutor> Once you have contacted the owner/master, they may use /MSG L RECOVER <channel>. This will deop everybody in the channel and remove all bans or channel flags that prevent you from entering. [L51]
20:21 <@Tutor> Anybody with a CHANLEV of at least +o can attempt to recover the channel, but this is not always as effective and is beyond the scope of this tutorial. Full details are included in the L FAQ however. [L52]
20:21 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L53]
20:21 >> ----
20:21 <@Tutor> ----
20:21 <@Tutor> Bum asked: What is the point of having the +g function on L if +a does exactly the same only +g only works for +v, why not just have +a?
20:21 <@Tutor> meeb answers: so you can have the flags +gvo for example, this would only VOICE you on joining the channel, but you couls still be able to request ops using /msg L op <#channel>
20:21 <@Tutor> Bum asked: What is the point of having the +g function on L if +a does exactly the same only +g only works for +v, why not just have +a?
20:21 <@Tutor> Salt answers: If you give a use +gov, then when they join the channel they only get voice. If they need to (disruptive user for example), they can get ops via /msg l op #channel. +aov will give the user ops when they join the channel.
20:21 <@Tutor> mikko^ asked: how many bans i can set?
20:21 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: QuakeNet has a limit of 45 bans per channel.
20:22 <@Tutor> Stalin- asked: how many people can you add in the L?
20:22 <@Tutor> Salt answers: 30 users per channel
20:22 <@Tutor> Heartwork[FC] asked: is a G-Line a permanent ban on all servers, or temporary?
20:22 <@Tutor> meeb answers: A g-line is set for a duration, the duration can be hours, days, weeks, years, so on.
20:23 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n`city asked: what is the chanlev +b on the Q?
20:23 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Bans and kicks that auth if they join the channel. It isnt available on L.
20:23 <@Tutor> Revolt asked: if u add 30 people to the channel but need to add more wot can u do?
20:23 <@Tutor> meeb answers: a popular method is to use another non-network service bot to add users to, such as an eggdrop bot.
20:23 <@Tutor> Icey1 asked: if its just me here how come other ppl are asking questions?
20:23 <@Tutor> magpie answers: This channel is in a delayed-join mode. You cannot see other people in the channel, although there are over 1000 users here. See the IRC FAQ for more details.
20:23 <@Tutor> Stalin- asked: why cant you add more then 30 people in the L?
20:23 <@Tutor> Jack answers: because it's the lightweight bot
20:24 <@Tutor> foobar asked: I know this has nothing to do with this tutorial, but i couldn't find an answer on the site. What is T and is it requestable?
20:24 <@Tutor> meeb answers: T is QuakeNet's anti-trojan and worm scanner, it is automatic and it is not requestable
20:24 <@Tutor> Telbot asked: will there be any versions with L where one is able to BAN with Q ?
20:24 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Probably not as you can do that anyway by banning the hostmask *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org. If that is banned, anyone who is authed as that account cannot join the channel.
20:24 <@Tutor> xZZit asked: why is it a limit on banns on qnet?
20:24 <@Tutor> magpie answers: To prevent abuse. 45 should be sufficient for any channel.
20:24 <@Tutor> ttbw|Tim asked: are there situations in which the owner is not able to recover the channel?
20:24 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: If IRC operators are not taking the channel away from the owner, the owner should always be able to get it back
20:24 <@Tutor> r4V3n| asked: How do i register my self to q? Or L I cant remeber wich one it is.
20:24 <@Tutor> magpie answers: You register an account with Q. See the Q FAQ for more details, or type /msg Q help hello
20:25 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: Can L rejoin a channel when the channel's user limit is reached?
20:25 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Only if the channel user count is below the limit
20:25 >> ----
20:25 <@Tutor> ----
20:25 <@Tutor> In the final part of this tutorial we remind you again about security issues with your Q account. [L54]
20:26 <@Tutor> Q is always called Q. All Quakenet services always have single character names, and never have punctuation in them. Be very wary of anyone with a name like `Q or Q_, they will often be trying to decieve you. [L55]
20:26 <@Tutor> Also be aware of anybody with a name like NickServ_. QuakeNet does not use NickServ or ChanServ, so people with nicknames like these are also trying to deceive you. [L56]
20:26 <@Tutor> We have now reached the end of this Quakenet #tutorial session, thank you for coming. [L57]
20:26 <@Tutor> We would like to thank the people that helped make this tutorial possible : [L58]
20:26 <@Tutor> The operator and helper staff that helped to draft this tutorial, and are in #help and #feds to answer your questions. [L59]
20:26 <@Tutor> The tutors that have helped answer your questions here tonight. [L60]
20:27 <@Tutor> And finally we would like to thank you for any feedback you can provide. Please as this session ends, send any feedback you may have to me, just as you would have sent previous questions. [L61]
20:27 <@Tutor> This concludes tonight's session. Check the website for details of future sessions as they become available. [62]
20:27 <@Tutor> Good night, and thanks for attending. [L63]
20:27 >> ----
20:27 <@Tutor> ----
20:27 <@Tutor> Ela_sto^^ asked: how can kick somebody
20:27 <@Tutor> meeb answers: use /kick <#channel> <nickname> to kick <nickname> from <#channel>, you can specify a reason with /msg <#channel> <nickname> <reason>. you can ONLY kick people if you are a channel operator, you cannot kick QuakeNet's channel services (L or Q)
20:27 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: When L can't join a channel if the channel's user limit is reached, what prevents an overtaker to set +l 1 and stay on that channel even if the netsplit is over
20:27 <@Tutor> Darko answers: Correction: L can override any channel mode.
20:28 <@Tutor> Septic asked: so L can actually be banned by using +l1?
20:28 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Opps, I made a mistake, I read it as 'I' and not 'L'. L cannot be stopped from joining a channel, irrelevant of what modes are set.
20:28 <@Tutor> u|boot asked: how can I get auditorium mode
20:28 <@Tutor> Jack answers: read the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:29 <@Tutor> [LP5`Bg]T1000 asked: is L invincible?
20:29 <@Tutor> Salt answers: From a user's point of view, yes.
20:29 <@Tutor> Telbot asked: can I use +D on a regular channel?
20:29 <@Tutor> Jack answers: yes you can
20:29 <@Tutor> ][MoC][Burchov asked: Does Q have a limit on how many ppl can be added?
20:29 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, but abuse will lead to removal or suspension of Q.
20:29 <@Tutor> Demilcol asked: if i want to give someone +m does that user have to be authed
20:29 <@Tutor> meeb answers: yes, any flags you give to any user require that the user must be auth'd with Q
20:30 <@Tutor> ttbw|Tim asked: when i set +s every user cannot see any other user in the channel?
20:30 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no, channel mode +s means that that channel does not show up when other users /whois you
20:30 <@Tutor> TotMacherr asked: why do i need L, when i have Q ?
20:30 <@Tutor> Darko answers: You don't
20:30 <@Tutor> zakx asked: Salt, what is 'I'?
20:30 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Read the original text he asked and replace L with I, it would make sense then (or just accept I made a mistake, and you cannot stop L joining a channel) :)
20:30 <@Tutor> Robin42 asked: What software controls L and Q - are they eggdrops, or custom made by Quakenet?
20:30 <@Tutor> Jack answers: custom made, eggdrops couldn't handle all the stuff :)
20:31 <@Tutor> LinuX[P4] asked: How many Have done the L and Q?
20:31 <@Tutor> Jack answers: /msg L version tells you about the L coders (same command works in Q)
20:32 <@Tutor> SolHeiM asked: If i give owner to a friend, his account gets hacked and someone steals the channel what shall i do?
20:32 <@Tutor> Darko answers: Remove his access ASAP. Read the Security FAQ at www.quakenet.org - oh and accounts don't get hacked. Users send their password without actually checking if it's Q or not.
20:32 <@Tutor> [DFG]DinMor asked: how did you do it so this channel (tutorial) appers empty?
20:32 <@Tutor> Jack answers: channelmode +D, the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org explains that mode
20:32 <@Tutor> fLaIr|NMIL asked: what do you have to do to get a "Qnetban" so that you can't connect to Qnet any more??i'm asking because i heard that if you overtake a channel with Q you get one ;)
20:32 >> URL 6 stored
20:32 <@Tutor> Salt answers: See http://www.quakenet.org/faq/faq.php?c=4&f=11#11
20:33 <@Tutor> ^MaYh3m asked: PLS ANSWER THIS : why won't halfop be added to quakenet?
20:33 <@Tutor> meeb answers: it is seen to be a useless mode and will not be added, just use voice and op
20:33 <@Tutor> semmel asked: Which IRCD are you using ?
20:33 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: a patched version of ircu (the UnderNet ircd)
20:33 <@Tutor> semmel asked: How many people are there in this chan ?
20:33 <@Tutor> magpie answers: You may find out at any time by typing /list #tutorial
20:34 <@Tutor> X-BeAsT-X|Game asked: Are you guys going to answer all the questions? Or only a few?
20:34 <@Tutor> meeb answers: as many as possible, a lot of questions are asked.
20:34 <@Tutor> F`ra|LordTT7 asked: What exactly does that +asuka thing from the Server mean?
20:34 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: asuka is the name of QuakeNet's patch for ircu
20:34 <@Tutor> T`27|Shadow asked: Why doesnt L get kicked because of idling?
20:34 <@Tutor> meeb answers: L is a QuakeNet channel service and as such, cannot be kicked or deoped.
20:35 <@Tutor> RBE asked: In what programming language are L and Q written?
20:35 <@Tutor> Salt answers: C I believe, check www.quakenet.org -> 'Dev Com' for the code
20:36 <@Tutor> morphium asked: whois meeb ? he isnt an oper !?!
20:36 <@Tutor> Jack answers: he's a member of the support staff
20:36 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: if i request Q while L ist on my channel...will L then automatically be removed?
20:36 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No, you need to remove L to request Q (but keep hold of L currently, Q cannot be requested currently)
20:37 <@Tutor> skBa asked: Why the network name is really QuakeNet, i mean how did you came up with that name?
20:37 <@Tutor> meeb answers: when QuakeNet started, it was a place for users to arange online Quake games, hence the name. It has, obviously, grown a tremendous amount since then.
20:37 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: Will Q ever be removed from channels which got Q before the high user requirements which are now in place?
20:37 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No, those who got Q under the old rules keep Q.
20:37 <@Tutor> skBa asked: Why the network name is really QuakeNet, i mean how did you came up with that name?
20:37 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it was a network for Quake players when it started
20:38 <@Tutor> Washu-chan asked: How can I recover a channel after overtake without +m or +n flag (only +o), because owner and masters are not online?
20:38 <@Tutor> magpie answers: The UNBANALL, CLEARCHAN and INVITE commands all work with +o chanlev. /msg L HELP <command>, for more details.
20:39 <@Tutor> T`27|Shadow asked: Why dont the channels #help and #feds want idlers?
20:39 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: The channels are supposed for help and support, the more people in thoose channels, the more spam. With more spam, it will get difficult to help people.
20:39 <@Tutor> foobar asked: Is there a way to cancel a 'LIST' request ?
20:39 <@Tutor> magpie answers: /quote LIST STOP
20:39 <@Tutor> [LP5`Bg]T1000 asked: why takeovers happen again?the security of Q isn't strong enough?what's the problems with that?
20:39 <@Tutor> Salt answers: The only way they can take over channels is by getting ops, either by someone giving them ops (user problem) or by them authing as someone else who has the +ao flag (again a user problem). Check the Security FAQ at www.quakenet.org for more info.
20:40 <@Tutor> Vendetta asked: I have a Q in a channel, but the clan changed its name and so we changed our channel name too, how can i move my Q to the new channel?
20:40 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: you will be able to move Q as soon as the request system is back online
20:40 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: why isn't there a chanmode which would strip the color instead of not sending the message to the chan?
20:40 <@Tutor> meeb answers: this would require a lot of processing by the server so is not implimented
20:40 <@Tutor> F`ra|LordTT7 asked: is the +asuka patch for free and if so where to get it?
20:40 >> URL 7 stored
20:40 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: yes, it's free, you can download it from http://dev-com.quakenet.org/
20:41 <@Tutor> ScorpZ|Lajlir asked: What happens if I ban L before requesting him, and then making the request?
20:41 <@Tutor> Jack answers: as said before, L can override that mode
20:41 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n asked: When somebody overtake my chanel, can i send u the address + nick and u kann k-lined him?
20:41 >> URL 8 stored
20:41 <@Tutor> Salt answers: ANything like that should be discussed in #feds or via email to info@quakenet.org
20:41 <@Tutor> uC`Sec asked: why give Quakenet no Trusts?
20:41 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: Actually there is a trust request system online and you can request a trust... have a look at www.quakenet.org for more information
20:42 <@Tutor> m4nu3l asked: why were many channels like #feds and #help created on Apr 13 2003?
20:42 <@Tutor> magpie answers: That was when a network wide upgrade of the QuakeNet IRC servers took place.
20:42 <@Tutor> [FSB]Doublezero asked: what are ALL the irc commands?
20:42 <@Tutor> meeb answers: /quote help - for a list of the commands the server supports, and /help (if you are using mirc) for a huge list of commands and aliases that mIRC supports
20:43 <@Tutor> SJafk asked: Can Q and L expire from unused channels, how long does that take if so?
20:43 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Yes, if noone joins the channel who has flags on that channel for a certain amount of time, L and Q will leave. It's 40 days for Q and 20 days for L. Anyone joining with flags will reset the count.
20:43 <@Tutor> xpac` asked: is there a date when the q request will be up again ?
20:43 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no
20:43 <@Tutor> Ssystem asked: How can i get L to a channel?
20:43 <@Tutor> meeb answers: read the L faq at www.quakenet.org - L is requestable from the website when your channel meets cirtain requirements
20:44 <@Tutor> LinuX[P4] asked: Is it 5 clients per IP or per computer?
20:44 <@Tutor> Jack answers: per IP
20:44 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: A user with chanlev +o can do every command included in RECOVER one by one, why doesn't he have access to the RECOVER command?
20:44 <@Tutor> magpie answers: He doesn't have access to the DEOPALL command, which is also performed by RECOVER.
20:44 <@Tutor> matt_ asked: is it still 5 clients even when you +x 3 of them ?
20:44 <@Tutor> Darko answers: yes
20:45 <@Tutor> wjon asked: What is required for a trust to be added?
20:45 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: www.QuakeNet.org -> Trust FAQ - Contains just about all the info you need.
20:45 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: does the u-mode +w (wallops) make any sense?
20:45 <@Tutor> meeb answers: yes, the u-mode +w (wallops) allows you to see oper-sent messages normally in your status window. these are not broadcast all the time so you may not see them. they generally involve mooing.
20:46 <@Tutor> Spr- asked: how can i hide the people in my chan like in #tutorial
20:46 <@Tutor> Darko answers: By setting +D as explained atleast twice already
20:46 <@Tutor> [MgC]Thorgal asked: when do you hold these tutorials ?
20:46 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Usually on a Sunday at 1900BST/2000CEST.
20:46 <@Tutor> ferienjonny^^ asked: i really find it very admirable of you to answer those millions of questions and sometimes the same even 10 times or more and never beeing angry! great job! :)
20:46 <@Tutor> meeb answers: on behalf of the QuakeNet staff, thankyou :)
20:46 <@Tutor> [LP5`Bg]T1000 asked: Could Quakenet change an owner of a Q or a L without his opinion?
20:46 <@Tutor> Salt answers: They will only get involved with the flags of the channel if there is no owner, in which case they will give it to the next relevant person (for example a master). Apart from that, it's upto the owner to deal with the flags.
20:47 <@Tutor> Quest^SuRp`aW asked: on my chan, my L tells me i'm not the owner or the master when i try to auto-op other people, how come is that ?
20:47 <@Tutor> meeb answers: you must have the flags +m or +n of L in that channel to be able to add channel ops (+o) - use /msg L whois <yournickname> to see the list of channels you are added to with L and what access flags you have in them
20:48 <@Tutor> morphium asked: L18 Does this really match EVERYONE authed with Q or only the +x - users?
20:48 <@Tutor> Jack answers: everyone authed with Q
20:48 <@Tutor> Washu-chan asked: what should I do to remove +D on a channel?
20:48 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Use /mode #channel -D
20:49 <@Tutor> wjon asked: if you set a ban on a *!*@authname.users.quakenet.net will the person still be able to join if they do not set +x?
20:49 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No.
20:49 <@Tutor> MeeZ asked: would quakenet be able to make +N and +n (owner and co-owner) for L and Q
20:49 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: You can already make someone a master (+m). A master can pretty much be called a "co-owner"
20:49 <@Tutor> ttbw|Tim asked: i have my auth password on an other machine and won´t get it soon... can i request my auth password from Q and be sent to my email?
20:49 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: Yes, with /msg Q requestpassword your@email
20:49 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n asked: When i have S in my channel and make very much adverst, will i be warn or killed when i have op/voice?
20:49 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Advertising is against QuakeNet rules, so most probably.
20:50 <@Tutor> krede`away asked: What does +D do ?
20:50 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Check the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org for all the modes and what they do.
20:50 <@Tutor> RubA\AFK asked: how to Q
20:50 <@Tutor> meeb answers: "Q" is not an adjective, it is not possible for a person to "Q"
20:51 <@Tutor> Mi3Z asked: With S can you Kill ?
20:51 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: S will kill when someone is breaking the rules. You can't kill yourself.
20:51 <@Tutor> kingSized`phanz asked: is masshighliting against quakenet rules ?
20:51 <@Tutor> meeb answers: yes this is classes as spam, and any spamming is strickly forbidden
20:52 <@Tutor> matt_ asked: if you set a ban on a *!*@authname.users.quakenet.net will the person still be able to join if they re authed as another account ?
20:52 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no, only users auth'd under that account you set the ban for will be banned
20:52 <@Tutor> turgat asked: how to become a Qnet op?
20:52 >> URL 9 stored
20:52 <@Tutor> Salt answers: See http://www.quakenet.org/faq/faq.php?c=4&f=9#9
20:52 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: is there a maximum for how many channels i can request L oder can i request L as often as i want to`?
20:52 <@Tutor> magpie answers: You may only be known by L on 20 different channels, so yes there is a limit.
20:52 <@Tutor> Mi3Z asked: Is S a special service provided only to large channels ?
20:52 <@Tutor> meeb answers: yes, S is only available for large channels
20:53 <@Tutor> gentox`Deus asked: What anout channels especially maken for advertising? are they forbitten too?
20:53 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: As advertising is forbidden on Quakenet, channels made for advertising will most likely be closed when found out about, yes
20:53 <@Tutor> Lotheac asked: meeb; Don't you mean "verb"? :p («@Tutor» meeb answers: "Q" is not an adjective, it is not possible for a person to "Q")
20:53 <@Tutor> meeb answers: yes as other users have pointed out (and staff..) i meant verb... so shh...
20:53 <@Tutor> T-e`simpe asked: can Q suck cock?
20:53 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: As Q is a computer program I doubt that it is able to do that.
20:54 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: which else service-bots are on quakenet...i know q, l, o and f
20:54 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: There's also S and H which are available to the public.
20:54 <@Tutor> m0ebius asked: can L ban somebody?
20:54 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no L does not support channel bans
20:55 <@Tutor> LinuX[P4] asked: What is O and F bot?
20:55 <@Tutor> meeb answers: the only bots that have publicly available commands for normal users are Q and L
20:55 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n asked: can i get a O or F bot?
20:55 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no, only IRC ops can use them
20:55 <@Tutor> wjon asked: is it likely that channel commands (commands that do not need to be used in PM) will be added to Q/L?
20:55 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No, Q and L are 'deaf' to save bandwidth, they cannot read the text said in channels, only PMs. Quakenet being the size it is, I doubt that will change.
20:55 <@Tutor> Lotheac asked: To my knowledge there is no sort of ghost command on qnet.. Why is that? Or is there and am I being an ignorant fool?
20:55 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: There is no NickServ here and a Q account doesn't protect your nickname.
20:55 <@Tutor> E-W|Phrencho asked: (20:53:25) (@Tutor) skater_x answers: There's also S and H which are available to the public. <-- H? Never heard of, sure this isn't a mistake, or may I get it to my channel?
20:55 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: /msg H help - you can't get it to your channel, but it can "answer" your questions.
20:56 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n asked: what is H? what can do him?
20:56 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Try /msg h help
20:56 <@Tutor> Demilcol asked: Please Answe this ! : ARE YOU bots OR humans
20:56 <@Tutor> meeb answers: all the questions are answered by QuakeNet staff, which contrary to popular belief, are mostly human.
20:56 <@Tutor> bringit asked: im trying to register my channel with an L bot, but i get this message : channel has no recognised ops or does not exist can u explain why?
20:56 <@Tutor> Salt answers: That is explained in the FAQ under the Getting L section.
20:58 <@Tutor> m0ebius asked: why cannot l save/set a topic
20:58 <@Tutor> magpie answers: L is designed to be a lightweight alternative to Q, and as such these features are not included.
20:59 <@Tutor> DdriX-[A] asked: What is an eggdrop?
20:59 <@Tutor> Salt answers: A bot, check www.egghelp.org for more info.
20:59 <@Tutor> sharp asked: do u ever think there will be away of saving ur nick except buying a bnc plz do it cos ppl always steal mine
20:59 <@Tutor> meeb answers: no it is not planned for normal users to be able to reserve nicknames.
20:59 <@Tutor> sharp asked: meeb can you please make it part of the plan ;)
20:59 <@Tutor> meeb answers: nah.
21:00 <@Tutor> SolHeiM asked: Why is Q currently down?
21:00 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Q is working fine, the request system is down till it can be fixed.
21:00 <@Tutor> wjon asked: why have two bots, why not have one bot and make it more widly avaliable?
21:00 <@Tutor> meeb answers: because of the demand on the servers that host the services.
21:00 <@Tutor> dg^xerx0n asked: why i am can´t do the "bitch mode" by L, because when there is a bitchmode then have overtaker less chance to take a chan?!?
21:00 <@Tutor> skater_x answers: Just don't op people you don't trust. That's better than bitchmode.
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20:13 <@Tutor> Hello and welcome to tonight's QuakeNet tutorial session. This tutorial is dedicated towards QuakeNet's older channel service bot, Q. [L1]
20:13 <@Tutor> We will regularly pause this session for you to ask any questions that you may have, regarding the material. [L2]
20:13 <@Tutor> If you have a question, please type /msg Tutor <your question here>. Use the line numbers to indicate which part your question relates to. [L3]
20:13 <@Tutor> This channel is moderated, which means you cannot talk in here. Also, please note that this channel is in auditorium mode. This means that you cannot see the other users in this channel, but don't be afraid, you are not the only person in this channel. [L4]
20:14 <@Tutor> Please ONLY send questions to me (Tutor). I will relay them to the Quakenet staff that will answer your questions. The staff members present in this channel CANNOT see any messages of any type you send directly to them. [L5]
20:14 <@Tutor> Note: For those who missed the last tutorial, we are hoping to have it uploaded to the website as soon as possible. [L6]
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20:14 <@Tutor> We'll start this week by revisiting the registration process. [L7]
20:14 <@Tutor> To register with Q, type "/msg Q HELLO <your@email> <your@email>". You need to type your email address twice to make sure you have typed it correctly. Your account name will be your nick at the time you say hello. You should only ever need to register once. [L8]
20:14 <@Tutor> Note that you may need to change your nickname (with the /NICK command) if the account name you want is already taken, or if your nickname contains special characters which are not allowed in account names (ie: `~^[]{}|_\). [L9]
20:15 <@Tutor> Q will send an email containing your new account details. We advise you read this email carefully as it contains important information about protecting your account. [L10]
20:15 <@Tutor> You can now change your password to something more memorable (but please, not easily guessable), by using "/msg Q NEWPASS <old_password> <new_password> <new_password>". You need to repeat your new password so we are sure you have typed it correctly. [L11]
20:15 <@Tutor> You will need to "auth" with Q each time you reconnect to the network in order to use your account. [L12]
20:15 >> URL 28 stored
20:15 <@Tutor> If you are using mIRC, and want help to automate the authentication process, then please see "http://www.quakenet.org/faq/faq.php?c=160&f=165#165". [L13]
20:15 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L14]
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20:16 <@Tutor> espanhol asked: how can i change my registration nick?
20:16 <@Tutor> Jack answers: you can't without creating a new account
20:16 <@Tutor> j0kers`PoWa asked: is q request gonna return soon ?
20:16 <@Tutor> radiance answers: no ETA for the Q request is known
20:17 <@Tutor> Tentacle- asked: Is Q only for auth, or he can do something else ?
20:17 <@Tutor> Jack answers: he's QuakeNet's main channelservice (it was the only one before l was created)
20:17 <@Tutor> Daws asked: Line 4, is it possible to put other channels in auditorium mode?
20:17 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Sure, use /mode #channel +D to set it and -D to remove it
20:17 <@Tutor> BlackCat_ asked: can i delete a Q accout really fast? faster then 40 days plz?
20:17 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: Negative
20:17 <@Tutor> evil^^ asked: How can i delete my account
20:17 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it'll expire if you don't use it for about 40 days, there's no other way
20:18 <@Tutor> [nC]Bubba asked: What does Q do that L cant?
20:18 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's more for large channels and so it has features for that. For more info, check /msg H help differences
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20:18 <@Tutor> Like L, Q is used to protect your channel from takeovers. It is designed for larger channels however, and as such is harder to request. See the Q FAQ at http://www.quakenet.org/ for more details. Please note, Q is currently not available for request. This is only temporary, and we hope to have it available again soon. [L15]
20:18 <@Tutor> Once you have Q you will obviously need to know how to use it. We'll give a short introduction here and move onto more detailed use later on in the tutorial. Remember, your main source of advice is the Q FAQ. [L16]
20:18 <@Tutor> To be able to use Q, you must be obviously be authed with it. This has to be done every time your client connects to QuakeNet. Once authed you will be able to send commands to Q: /msg Q <command>. You can also retrieve help on any command using /msg Q HELP <command>. Commands may be listed with /msg Q SHOWCOMMANDS. [L17]
20:19 <@Tutor> The main use of Q is to protect your channel and to auto-op/voice any people that you tell it to. This is done by giving people what is known as a 'CHANLEV'. This is a collection of flags that you can give a user, which determine their privileges on that channel. [L18]
20:19 <@Tutor> Available CHANLEV flags for Q are: a = auto, b = ban, m = master, n = owner, o = channel operator, t = topic changer, v = voice. Flags are combined to determine how Q behaves when the user enters the channel. [L19]
20:19 <@Tutor> Giving a user +v or +o on its own will not appear to do anything. They must be combined with +a to automatically voice or op the user upon joining, e.g. to auto-op you must use +ao. [L20]
20:19 <@Tutor> CHANLEVs are set using /msg Q CHANLEV <channel> <nickname> +|-flags. If the user is offline, you may replace <nickname> with #<auth name>. [L21]
20:19 <@Tutor> The master and owner flags are different. They determine a user's ability to alter people's CHANLEVs and recover the channel after a takeover. Owners have full control over the bot, so be VERY careful when adding new owners - i.e. DO NOT add new owners unless you completely trust the user. Masters however can add or remove people, but cannot touch anybody with the master or owner flag. Again, only give this to people you completely trust. [L22]
20:19 <@Tutor> We will visit some of the CHANLEV flags later on in this tutorial, however now we will pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L23]
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20:20 <@Tutor> SnEjK asked: why can't I use `~^[]{}|_\) in my auth-nick? I could do that for about 1 year ago...
20:20 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It was changed a few months ago.
20:20 <@Tutor> flow`nichda asked: what can i do when my account expired?
20:20 <@Tutor> Jack answers: create a new one
20:20 <@Tutor> Acidnator asked: is G-flag used with Q?
20:20 <@Tutor> Jack answers: nope
20:21 <@Tutor> beckett1 asked: If the person who is the channel owner loses his Q account with Q how can we make someone else a owner
20:21 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: make a request in #feds for an ownerless channel, a +m user will be granted ownership
20:21 <@Tutor> civer asked: is there a faster way if i am onwer to delet all chanflags (expect mine) than remove it one by one?
20:21 >> URL 30 stored
20:21 <@Tutor> radiance answers: yes there is, you can find a script (clearchanlev) on the #help website : http://help.quakenet.org
20:21 <@Tutor> AcaPulco asked: What can I do, if my account was stolen?
20:21 <@Tutor> magpie answers: See the security FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:21 <@Tutor> Kirby|-Dusty` asked: What are the requirement for having a Q on your channel?
20:21 <@Tutor> repiV answers: See the Q faq at www.quakenet.org/faq , it lists every requirement in detail
20:22 <@Tutor> Doekjens asked: what if my account expired, do i lose all vlags in channels in wich i got auto-op, when i register a new account??
20:22 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Yes.
20:22 <@Tutor> aXChriss asked: why can't L lock the Topic but Q?
20:22 <@Tutor> Salt answers: L is lightweight, and saving/setting topic uses resources. Q however can do that. Eggdrops can be used to suppliment L's features if needed.
20:22 <@Tutor> Kampin_Bunny asked: if you have `~^[]{}|_\) in your nick, will your auth account be suspended? [l9]
20:22 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: no
20:22 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: What does Q stand for?
20:22 <@Tutor> Jack answers: Q is short for QuakeNet
20:22 <@Tutor> zI`eQuo asked: is there a possibilty to get owner back, if somebody hacked my account . .?! i requested it !
20:22 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: accounts lost through ignorance of security aren't recoverable
20:23 <@Tutor> `nrG`aFk asked: is it possible to have 1 Q in two channels or move Q from one channel to another channel?
20:23 <@Tutor> repiV answers: Yes it is, but currently the request system is down: we don't currently know when it will return
20:23 <@Tutor> Center asked: can i connect to Q from telnet?
20:23 <@Tutor> radiance answers: no
20:23 <@Tutor> Shark asked: Why not use "md5 passwords" with q or simular encryption?
20:23 <@Tutor> Jack answers: requestpassword wouldn't work for you then
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20:24 <@Tutor> Now that you have added users to Q, you will need to know how to recover your channel in the event of a takeover. [L24]
20:24 <@Tutor> Firstly, we cannot stress enough that you should only give channel operator status to people you trust completely. [L25]
20:24 <@Tutor> In the event that somebody does take over your channel, the best way to recover it is to contact the owner/master (people with +n or +m CHANLEV). [L26]
20:24 <@Tutor> Once you have contacted the owner/master, they may use the following commands to recover the channel: /MSG Q DEOPALL <channel>, /MSG Q UNBANALL <channel> and finally /MSG Q CLEARCHAN <channel>. This will deop everybody in the channel and remove and bans or channel flags that prevent you from entering. [L27]
20:24 <@Tutor> Anybody with a CHANLEV of at least +o can attempt to recover the channel, however, they can only use UNBANALL and CLEARCHAN. As such, this is not always as effective. [L28]
20:24 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L29]
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20:25 <@Tutor> ----
20:25 <@Tutor> LutS asked: Does S bot require a Q bot?
20:25 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It needs either Q or L
20:25 <@Tutor> retard- asked: why should i an use s bot? and not other personal bots?
20:25 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: use whatever you want, so long as it's inside our network rules and policies
20:25 <@Tutor> DDS- asked: how many users can you have on Q ?
20:25 <@Tutor> radiance answers: there is no limit
20:25 <@Tutor> [Jaeger]ToMaS asked: how to make a Q?
20:25 <@Tutor> repiV answers: Read the Q faq, at www.quakenet.org/faq - This goes for everyone with similar questions
20:25 <@Tutor> defs-4u|666 asked: when can we request Q ?
20:25 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: there's no ETA, stop asking
20:25 <@Tutor> v1sioN|q3 asked: Is there anything higher then q? like G of god?
20:25 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: As channel bots, L and Q are the only ones people need to know. Few people need S (SpamScan).
20:25 <@Tutor> Blaster2 asked: How to become Q?
20:25 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: jump out of the nearest window
20:26 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: Jack answers: requestpassword wouldn't work for you then <-- but you could send out a new, generated password!!
20:26 <@Tutor> Jack answers: wouldn't change a thing as users would still save their password in the perform of mIRC...
20:26 <@Tutor> [p5]Raven asked: why is there no RECOVER command in Q, but Lightweight L has is?
20:26 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: the recover command is just the deopall, clearchan and unbanall commands in 1, Q supports these individually
20:27 <@Tutor> Acidnator asked: why can users with ONLY o-flag use unbanall? it`s pretty "big" command
20:27 <@Tutor> Salt answers: If voiced could use it, it would make them quite 'powerful' on that channel, and ops couldn't ban them if necessary as they could unban and rejoin. Voice is only to talk on +m channels, nothing more.
20:27 <@Tutor> [-deathlord-] asked: how can i request a g-line ?
20:27 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: check out the Q/L FAQs
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20:27 <@Tutor> We will now explain how Q can be used to enforce bans on your channel. [L30]
20:28 <@Tutor> You may have noticed above that Q provides an extra CHANLEV, when compared to L. This is the +b or ban flag. When this is given to a user, Q will automatically ban (and kick) them whenever they enter the channel. [L31]
20:28 <@Tutor> Another way to enforce a permanent ban is to use /msg Q BAN <channel> <host mask>. Host masks were covered in the last tutorial (i.e. nick!ident@host). When a permanent ban is set in this fashion any user matched by the specified host mask will be banned upon entering the channel. [L32]
20:28 <@Tutor> Permanent bans may be listed at any time with /msg Q BANLIST <channel>, and removed with /MSG Q BANDEL <channel> <host mask|#id> (you can enter either a host mask or the ban's ID which is obtained with the BANLIST command). It is worth noting that all permanent bans may be cleared at any time with /msg Q BANCLEAR <channel> (UNBANALL only clears temporary bans). [L33]
20:28 <@Tutor> /msg Q BANDEL can be a useful way of recovering a channel without removing all other bans that you have set. It is also worth noting that /msg Q BAN will instantly kick any users in the channel matching the host mask that was banned, so be careful when using this command. [L34]
20:28 <@Tutor> Only users with the +m/+n (master/owner) CHANLEV may add permanent bans (via +b CHANLEV of /msg Q BAN) to a channel, and likewise only they can remove them. [L35]
20:28 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L36]
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20:29 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: if I set a ban with the banmask *@<authnick>.users.quakenet.org...will the user also be banned if he's authed and has not the userflag +x ?
20:29 <@Tutor> Jack answers: yes
20:29 <@Tutor> i`uk|Titanium asked: is there a way to kick people form outside the channel. in the attempt of a takover
20:29 <@Tutor> repiV answers: Yes, the deopall, clearchan and unbanall commands: read about them in the Q faq at www.quakenet.org/faq
20:29 <@Tutor> Pieter asked: Why Do you only support a Q for clans / game related channels ?
20:29 <@Tutor> radiance answers: because this is a gaming network
20:29 <@Tutor> WW|Zahrun asked: what will happen to a channel in witch i am the only one with the n flag wenn my account is deletet after i have been 40 days away
20:29 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: Q/L will part it
20:29 <@Tutor> smilydog asked: what can i do if i lost my password for my Q Account?
20:29 >> URL 31 stored
20:29 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: /msg Q requestpassword myemail@somehost.com
20:30 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: Why is Q harder to get then L?
20:30 <@Tutor> repiV answers: Because Q uses significantly more resources than L
20:30 <@Tutor> i`uk|Titanium asked: is there a way to kick people form outside the channel. in the attempt of a takover
20:30 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: You can use Q's ban commands when you're not on the channel too.
20:30 <@Tutor> Center asked: can i set channel modes (+D,+R,+u etc.) using Q?
20:30 <@Tutor> radiance answers: no Q can not set channelmodes
20:30 <@Tutor> Acidnator asked: [21:26] <@Tutor> Salt answers: If voiced could use it, it would make them quite 'powerful' on that channel, and ops couldn't ban them if necessary as they could unban and rejoin. Voice is only to talk on +m channels, nothing more. <-- what I meant wa
20:30 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Maybe, but those with ops can use the INVITE command and bypass the ban anyway (invites override any bans on the channel).
20:31 <@Tutor> SteffeN asked: Why can`t Q be deleted from empty Chans, let`s say <20 Users! So Q Capacity wouldn`t be so high, and no more lags, would be the result. Or even the Request System would be up faster.
20:31 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: empty channel use very little resources, we lose nothing by allowing them to exist, incase the owner should wish to reactivate them in future
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20:31 <@Tutor> There is another set of flags that can be set using Q, these are CHANFLAGs. [L37]
20:32 <@Tutor> These determine how Q behaves when people join the channel, obtain or lose ops or voice, or change the topic. The flags are viewed or set by using /msg Q CHANFLAGS <channel> [[+|-]<flags>]. [L38]
20:32 <@Tutor> The CHANFLAGs available are: b = bitch mode, c = channel limit, f = force topic, k = force key, l = force limit, p = protect ops, t = topic save, w = welcome message. [L39]
20:32 <@Tutor> When bitch mode is set (CHANFLAG +b), Q will automatically deop or devoice any users which are opped/voiced and do NOT have a CHANLEV on Q. This is a good way of preventing takeovers. [L40]
20:32 <@Tutor> The channel limit setting (CHANFLAG +c) may be used to prevent join floods. It automatically sets the channel limit every 5 minutes. The AUTOLIMIT command is used in conjunction with this to determine the new channel limit. /msg Q AUTOLIMIT <channel> <#limit>, where new limit = current limit + #limit. Make sure CHANFLAG +l is NOT set when using Q's autolimit features. [L41]
20:32 <@Tutor> Forcing the topic with Q (CHANFLAG +f) prevents people from changing the topic with the /TOPIC command. Instead you must use /msg Q SETTOPIC <channel> <topic>. [L42]
20:32 <@Tutor> Q also allows you for force a key on the channel (CHANFLAG +k), which prevents people from removing the channel key. Use /msg Q KEY <channel> [<key>] to view or change the current key. [L43]
20:33 <@Tutor> When CHANFLAG +l is set, Q forces a permanent (and fixed) limit on the channel. Use /msg Q LIMIT <channel> <limit> to set it. This CHANFLAG must not be used in conjunction with CHANFLAG +c. [L44]
20:33 <@Tutor> Protecting channel operators (CHANFLAG p) is another useful feature of Q's, which can help prevent channel takeovers. When a user with +o CHANLEV is deopped, Q will automatically op the user. [L45]
20:33 <@Tutor> Another useful feature of Q's is the topic save facility (CHANFLAG +t). This allows Q to automatically set the topic, should Q be restarted. [L46]
20:33 <@Tutor> The last CHANFLAG allows Q to display a welcome message to people joining the channel (CHANFLAG +w). Use /msg Q WELCOME <channel> <message> to set the welcome message. [L47]
20:33 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L48]
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20:33 <@Tutor> ----
20:33 <@Tutor> Roy asked: There are some commands to Q: moo (some funstuff) - can a normal user use them too?
20:33 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: negative
20:34 <@Tutor> hMlg|VicK asked: Can I unauth my self when I'm authed, and want to auth as another person?
20:34 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No, you need to reconnect to the network to 'de-auth' (and if you use a bouncer, it means reconnecting that, and not your client to the bouncer)
20:34 <@Tutor> Center asked: if i get Q will my L settings lost?
20:34 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: yes
20:34 <@Tutor> Aspin` asked: So why does L leave channels when it is empty if Q doesn't?
20:34 <@Tutor> repiV answers: because L, being the "LightWeight" bot, is designed to use as few resources as possible
20:34 <@Tutor> morphium asked: "the recover command is just the deopall, clearchan and unbanall commands in 1, Q supports these individually" l too, doesnt it?
20:34 <@Tutor> Jack answers: yeah they're also available as single commands on L.
20:35 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: You say you can prevent a channel overtake with Q, but you hardly see channels with Q in as it is so hard to get, itsnt it time you made a easier bot to get then Q that has the same features?
20:35 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: L does the same thing
20:35 <@Tutor> [FuN]Nick asked: Why is Q now called the Old Service?
20:35 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's just a term used. L is new, Q is old.
20:35 <@Tutor> EyesOnly asked: has quakenet webby got descriptions of all the new commands available
20:35 <@Tutor> radiance answers: sure it does
20:35 <@Tutor> GNA|Egga asked: is q able to set modes like in #tutorial that only ops are visible?
20:35 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: no, channel operators can set modes like +D, whereby users are invisible until they say or do something
20:36 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: Then why have Q if L does the same thing??
20:36 <@Tutor> magpie answers: L has less features than Q, but still serves to protect your channel (as Q does).
20:36 <@Tutor> Center asked: can i get other bots to my channel than Q, L or S? Like H ..?
20:36 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: available bots are listed under 'Services' on our website
20:36 <@Tutor> raTe|SolHeiM asked: Lets say i am owner in #n00bchan for example (QBot) and i am owner in #n00bs (LBot) can Qnet ops move the QBot for me without the request system?
20:36 <@Tutor> radiance answers: this will be possible when the Q request system is back
20:37 <@Tutor> Daws asked: What sort of resources does it take to run a bot like Q?
20:37 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: lots of beer and cpu power
20:37 <@Tutor> redfox asked: how can i see a list of the people in a +d chan?
20:37 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Use /names -d #channel
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20:37 <@Tutor> In the final part of this tutorial, we reiterate the importance of security awareness on QuakeNet. [L49]
20:38 <@Tutor> IRC can be a dangerous place. There are a number of basic precautions you should take to protect you from "hackers" and other troublemakers. [L50]
20:38 <@Tutor> Do not give out personal information to strangers on IRC (ie. telephone numbers, address) unless you are 100^ertain that you can trust them. In particular, if you are under 16, PLEASE speak to your parents of guardian before giving this information out on IRC. [L51]
20:38 <@Tutor> IRC clients generally ask you for a real name. mIRC asks you for this in a 'full name' field you can find in " File --> Options --> Connect --> Full Name ". This information is visible to other users and as such it is advisable to not put your real name in this field. [L52]
20:38 <@Tutor> Do not give out your Q password (if you have one) to anybody. Quakenet staff will NEVER ask you for this password. [L53]
20:38 <@Tutor> Do not ever type anything that begins with a / that you do not understand the meaning of. Be especially careful if the command includes strange characters or "$decode". [L54]
20:38 <@Tutor> Please be very careful with links that people offer you on IRC. While some people will offer harmless programs, others are trying to make you download programs that will harm your computer. Be particularly careful if they offer you things that appear too good to be true (like halving your ping, free ops on channels, etc.). [L55]
20:39 <@Tutor> Some people try to offer you 'free bouncer services'. However, because you are then bouncing your IRC connection off a computer run by them, they can see everything you type on IRC. Not only is this an invasion of your privacy, but they can also capture your Q password. [L56]
20:39 <@Tutor> Q is always called Q. All Quakenet services always have single character names, and never have punctuation in them. Be very wary of anyone with a name like `Q or Q_, they will often be trying to decieve you. [L57]
20:39 <@Tutor> Use our hidden hosts system. This is explained later in the section on registration. This prevents users from finding your computer and launching attacks directly against it. [L58]
20:39 <@Tutor> Keep the operating system on your computer up to date. For Windows users, run Windows Update regularly and apply any security patches which are available. [L59]
20:39 <@Tutor> Keep your IRC client up to date. All mIRC versions less than version 6 have known security problems that can allow other people to control your client over IRC. Please regularly check that your version is up to date. [L60]
20:39 <@Tutor> Here we will stop for a few moments while we can answer any questions you may have asked. As a reminder, to ask a question, do /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L61]
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20:40 <@Tutor> ----
20:40 <@Tutor> HUND asked: where can i download Q
20:40 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Go to www.quakenet.org and click the Dev-Com link. That's the services you can download, and Q is there.
20:40 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: do you always set #tutorial +D to prevent user from having hundreds of joins on their irc-window?
20:40 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: Yes.
20:40 <@Tutor> retard- asked: my friend told me peaple could hack Q nad overtake channels is that true?
20:40 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: no, Q accounts are often compromised through basic social engineering, whereby a staff member or service is impersonated, and the user is asked to send their details to a certain user; the channels where that user had owner are then taken over and often aren't recoverable
20:40 <@Tutor> Vegar asked: can i link my old account to a new one so i can keep the same flags as the old account had?
20:40 <@Tutor> Jack answers: no
20:41 <@Tutor> servi asked: is there any way to block these $decode messages ?
20:41 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: That can be done using scripts, but if you just ignore them, you should be fine.
20:41 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: What do I require in my channel to get Q and for how long?
20:41 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: read the Q/L FAQs
20:42 <@Tutor> `fug4zi` asked: can i ban ircops?
20:42 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: you can ban operators, but whether or not you can kick them afterwards, or whether or not the ban will actually keep them out if you can is another question
20:42 <@Tutor> rOckY-`2 asked: Is it true hat the Q request system is adviable? i get notices with the message " Q request adviable again" ??
20:42 <@Tutor> Jack answers: well to check if it works or not, visit www.quakenet.org (there are some fake websites, but just ignore them and use the real one)
20:42 <@Tutor> aXChriss asked: can i authed with 2 accounts at the same time and than have more flags as from 1 account?
20:42 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: negative
20:42 <@Tutor> Quix` asked: what doe the $decode do?
20:42 <@Tutor> radiance answers: it hides a usually bad piece of code by encoding it, never execute a $decode message, as it usually contains a worm
20:42 <@Tutor> blackmaniac asked: do I need a Q Account in order to get my own channnel?
20:42 <@Tutor> magpie answers: You need a Q account to gain access to QuakeNet services (i.e. L, Q and S). You can have your own channel without a Q account, but it won't be as well protected if you don't have L or Q.
20:42 <@Tutor> GeNeSiS[UTUN] asked: Why can't you just give me a straight answer instead of saying Read all the Q/L FAQs
20:42 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: We often get to the "Read the FAQ's" answers when we get quesions which is already answered in the tutorial, or answered by us to another user.
20:43 <@Tutor> Jockl^ asked: Isnt it a security hole, to let people change their email adress later? if this option would be removed, it would be possible to overtake q-accounts, right? (it would also be possible, to only let people change their q-mail-address, after clicking on
20:43 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: people require the ability to change their email address, whether or not it can be exploited is irrelevant
20:43 <@Tutor> servi asked: so a $decode message is harmless to *Nix systems ?
20:43 <@Tutor> Jack answers: it depends on your IRC client
20:44 >> ----
20:44 <@Tutor> ----
20:44 <@Tutor> We have now reached the end of this Quakenet #tutorial session, thank you for coming. [L62]
20:44 <@Tutor> We would like to thank the people that helped make this tutorial possible : [L63]
20:44 <@Tutor> The operator and helper staff that helped to draft this tutorial, and are in #help and #feds to answer your questions. [L64]
20:44 <@Tutor> The tutors that have helped answer your questions here tonight. [L65]
20:45 <@Tutor> And finally we would appreciate any feedback you can provide. Please as this session ends, send any feedback you may have to me, just as you would have sent previous questions. [L66]
20:45 <@Tutor> This concludes tonight's session. Check the website for details of future sessions as they become available. [L67]
20:45 <@Tutor> Good night, and thanks for attending. [L68]
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20:45 <@Tutor> Bounce asked: can I remove Q or L from my channel?
20:45 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Remove everyone's userflags (assigned using the CHANLEV command) from the channel and you, as owner, last, and L or Q will leave. Make sure that before you remove your flags, there is noone else listed, as it will be too later afterwards.
20:46 <@Tutor> MaxHeadroom asked: Where can i download Tutor ?
20:46 <@Tutor> Salt answers: You can't
20:46 <@Tutor> DjMadness asked: how can i trancefere my Q account to another ??
20:46 <@Tutor> radiance answers: you can not transfer a complete account, however you can ask the owners/masters of those channels to move the flags from one account to another for you
20:46 <@Tutor> myst asked: Is there a way to set a Channelmode like +c to block Notices by Users complete ? ..
20:46 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No.
20:47 <@Tutor> BobaMa asked: "WW|Zahrun asked: what will happen to a channel in witch i am the only one with the n flag wenn my account is deletet after i have been 40 days away <Tutor> Deckard answers: Q/L will part it" <-- that happens even if there are other users I suppose?
20:47 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: if a dbcleanup (clears out redundant channels and users) is performed while the channel is ownerless, L will leave. until then, it will exist with no owner
20:47 <@Tutor> nEx|chacko`afk asked: how can i move q to another channel without the website interface? because it dont works :/
20:47 <@Tutor> Salt answers: You can't. You need to wait for the website to work.
20:47 <@Tutor> HG-RedMooN asked: how can i set S in chennel if i dont have meny ppl?
20:47 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: cookie dough chip
20:47 <@Tutor> {-David-} asked: how do you change CHANFLAGs for a room using Q?
20:47 <@Tutor> Salt answers: See /msg q help chanflags for a full explaination of the command.
20:47 <@Tutor> tiong asked: Is Q an eggdrop, oer or self-coded? Which kind of a machine it runs? Linux?
20:47 <@Tutor> radiance answers: no Q is a service, written in C
20:48 <@Tutor> Bulldog1_0 asked: Where can i find info on hidden hosts?
20:48 <@Tutor> magpie answers: In the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:48 <@Tutor> metal-moon asked: Will you lower the requirements of "average of 80 users" to get S?
20:48 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: unlikely
20:48 <@Tutor> PSY|Deep^afk asked: Is it Possible to get T in my channel?
20:48 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: T is fully automated and transparent
20:49 <@Tutor> bite asked: i want to host quakenet and Q i have a pretty powerful computer(1.4ghz) and a adsl is this possible?
20:49 <@Tutor> radiance answers: no, QuakeNet requires a dedicated 10Mbps line and more, you can find the requirements on our website
20:49 <@Tutor> gls-b3no_O asked: How much do you say "Look at FAQ" www.quakenet.org ?
20:49 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: When a question has already been answered within the last 10 mins.
20:49 <@Tutor> Nighty||mu asked: what is T ?
20:49 <@Tutor> Salt answers: It's a bot that handles users infected with trojans.
20:49 <@Tutor> Mzraki asked: stop messaging me ffs
20:49 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: sry
20:50 <@Tutor> blackmaniac asked: who/what is S and what can he do?
20:50 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: S deals with heavy levels of spam in channels
20:50 <@Tutor> blackmaniac asked: who/what is T and what can he do?
20:50 <@Tutor> radiance answers: T is the trojanscanner, it detects clients infected with worms, it will temporary G-line those people & give removal instructions
20:51 <@Tutor> StFi|-Ali asked: what is l?
20:51 <@Tutor> magpie answers: It's QuakeNet's lightweight channel service bot, an alternative to Q.
20:51 <@Tutor> dinesh asked: Can S k, g, or z line someone you spam too much?
20:51 <@Tutor> radiance answers: yes
20:51 <@Tutor> Boobietrap asked: i sometimes get disconnected when i enter chans with a high number of users, why?
20:51 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: your script might perform a /WHO on connect to obtain an address listing of that channel, if there are too many users on the channel, your client gets flooded off with all the information that it recieves
20:52 <@Tutor> [FuN]Nick asked: What version of irc server technology does Quakenet use, and can you download it?
20:52 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Check the reply when you do /version
20:53 <@Tutor> agent_putze asked: have seen people with * and ! and other signs before nick. what does it mean?
20:53 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: that sounds like a hostmask, rather than a nickname; hostmasks come in the format nickname!ident@host
20:53 <@Tutor> [sQd]SaV`- asked: what means G-lined?
20:53 <@Tutor> radiance answers: banned from the network
20:53 <@Tutor> morphium asked: is Q9 a fake ?
20:53 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No
20:54 <@Tutor> hoo asked: if i had a chan wich much users & no spam, could i request S? another question: if i had S and some users go away, so that there isnt any more spam, qould S left my chan?
20:54 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: the S request system on the website will tell you whether or not you can request it; you can request that S parts your channel via #feds if you are the owner
20:54 <@Tutor> Phish asked: What means k-lined?
20:54 <@Tutor> radiance answers: banned from one specific server, although this is not really used on quakenet
20:55 <@Tutor> [Nexus]Baltasar asked: if i do a whois on someone, ther comes always "NICK <authnick> is authed as"...is this a server site problem? and if yes could you plz fix it
20:55 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, it means your client isn't reading the reply properly.
20:55 <@Tutor> XozzI asked: do "quakenet" have a homepage?
20:55 >> URL 34 stored
20:55 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: http://www.QuakeNet.org
20:55 <@Tutor> morphium asked: you said q9 is no fake, but you said you only have single-char services...what is correct? and why are the opers so rare active @ #feds ? and why dont you select more opers?
20:55 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: Q9 isn't publically available yet
20:56 <@Tutor> |5D`cs|Rage^afk asked: when will we be able to order a Q bot again?
20:56 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No-one knows, sorry.
20:56 <@Tutor> morphium asked: deckard whats about the other question?
20:56 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: #feds is done to death on a daily basis
20:56 <@Tutor> rG`Cunni asked: What is Q9 and how will it effect Quakenet users, i heard its a new version of Q
20:56 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Correct
20:56 (!) ServerMode/#tutorial [+i] by port80a.se.quakenet.org
20:57 <@Tutor> bite asked: i dont want to give q my password because he can hack me and that other dude 'QuakeNet' i dont trust him who are they?
20:57 <@Tutor> Deckard answers: Don't EVER give your Q password to anyone except a) Q and b) our website at www.quakenet.org (not even if it looks the same as ours with a different address)
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20:57 <@Tutor> Tonight's tutorial session is now over, thanks for attending.
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19:57 (!) Topic for #tutorial: QuakeNet tutorial channel - Tonight's topic: Introduction to channel management and L | Please ONLY send questions to Tutor - /MSG Tutor <your question here> | Please keep your questions relevant to this tutorial
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19:57 (!) Irssi: #tutorial: Total of 3 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal]
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20:02 <@Tutor> Hello and welcome to tonight's QuakeNet tutorial session. This tutorial provides a more advanced look at channel management through channel modes, bans, etc. [L1]
20:02 <@Tutor> We will regularly pause this session for you to ask any questions that you may have, regarding the material. [L2]
20:02 <@Tutor> If you have a question, please type /msg Tutor <your question here>. Use the line numbers to indicate which part your question relates to. [L3]
20:02 <@Tutor> This channel is moderated, which means you cannot talk in here. Also, please note that this channel is in auditorium mode. This means that you cannot see the other users in this channel, but please don't be afraid, you are not the only person in this channel. [L4]
20:02 <@Tutor> Please ONLY send questions to me (Tutor). I will relay them to the Quakenet staff that will answer your questions. The staff members present in this channel CANNOT see any messages of any type you send directly to them. [L5]
20:02 <@Tutor> Note: For those who missed the last tutorial, we are hoping to have it uploaded to the website as soon as possible. [L6]
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20:03 <@Tutor> We’ll start this week by introducing the concept of a host mask. You will see why these are useful shortly. [L7]
20:03 >> URL 7 stored
20:03 <@Tutor> Every user on QuakeNet may be identified by a host mask. This consists of their nickname, their ident and finally their hostname. These different parts are stuck together as follows: nickname!ident@hostname. My host mask would be Tutor!tutor@quakenet.org. [L8]
20:03 <@Tutor> The nickname is what you would normally use to refer to the user, for example to send messages directly to the user or to elevate that user's status to voice or channel operator. The ident is another feature that is used to identify you, commonly used by bots. Finally, the hostname is your address on the internet. [L9]
20:03 <@Tutor> When specifying host masks to ban users etc., there are certain "wildcards" that can be used. Wildcards available on QuakeNet are ? and *. * will match any characters and ? will match any single character. [L10]
20:03 <@Tutor> Last week we talked about use of the /BAN command. We showed /BAN <channel> <nickname> as it's syntax. It is actually more advanced than this. You can also use /BAN <channel> <host mask>. This allows you to ban all users with the same ident (/BAN <channel> *!ident@*), all users with the same hostname (/BAN <channel> *!*@hostname) and so on. [L11]
20:03 <@Tutor> This allows you to combat any users who change nickname to evade your bans. Note, to ban a user by their Q authname ban the following host mask: *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org. [L12]
20:04 <@Tutor> A few examples of host masks and a description of what they mean should make this clearer: [L13]
20:04 <@Tutor> foo!*@* - matches anybody with the nickname 'foo' [L14]
20:04 <@Tutor> *!bar@* - matches anybody with the ident 'bar' [L15]
20:04 <@Tutor> *!*@*.org - matches anybody with a hostname that ends with '.org'. [L16]
20:04 <@Tutor> ?????!*@*.net - matches anybody with a 5 letter nickname, and who has a hostname ending with '.net'. [L17]
20:04 <@Tutor> *!*@*.users.quakenet.org - be careful with this one. This matches ALL users authed with Q. [L18]
20:05 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L19]
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20:05 >> URL 8 stored
20:05 <@Tutor> roolex asked: <Can i ban users with the same isp ? for example user@dsasadsa.telia.com ?
20:05 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Using *!*@*.telia.com would ban the whole ISP
20:06 <@Tutor> GigaDrone asked: how can i create new channel
20:06 <@Tutor> magpie answers: To create a new channel simply join it. If it was empty it becomes yours. You may also like to request L to protect your channel (this will be explained later on in this tutorial).
20:06 (!) Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Q
20:06 <@Tutor> Anssi asked: Does *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org match users without +x mode?
20:06 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Yes, it's a good way to ban an auth
20:07 <@Tutor> Daryll asked: How can you set a permanent ban using L? (Line 11)
20:07 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: L does not have the feature of settings bans.
20:07 <@Tutor> Tiger99 asked: Can i Also Add Users to Q by their hostname ?
20:07 <@Tutor> Darko answers: No
20:07 <@Tutor> [6]wc3`Needa asked: how is the real command ? to ban an auth
20:07 <@Tutor> magpie answers: /mode #channel +b *!*@qauth.users.quakenet.org - as answered above.
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20:08 <@Tutor> This section now deals with the introduction of channel modes. [L20]
20:08 <@Tutor> Banning users is not the only way to control your channel, nor is it always the best. QuakeNet, and other IRC networks, provide modes that you can set on your channel. This is done with the /MODE command. The syntax for this command is /MODE <channel> +|-<modechars> <parameters>. [L21]
20:09 <@Tutor> For example, to set channel mode +i on this channel I would type /MODE #tutorial +i. Certain modes need parameters to work properly, and these will be discussed later. [L22]
20:09 <@Tutor> Last time we talked about the various levels within a channel, these being channel operator, voice and regular. You may op, deop, voice and devoice users with commands such as /OP, /DEOP, /VOICE and /DEVOICE (syntax being /OP <nickname>), or you can set the channel modes manually. [L23]
20:09 <@Tutor> Channel mode +o signifies op, and channel mode +v signifies voice. For example, if I was to deop myself on this channel I could type /MODE #tutorial -o Tutor. You can see here that Tutor has been specified as a parameter for the /MODE command. [L24]
20:09 <@Tutor> Likewise, channel bans are added by setting channel mode +b and removed by clearing channel mode +b with a parameter. [L25]
20:09 <@Tutor> Other useful channel modes are +c, +C, +i, +k, +n, +r, +s and +t. [L26]
20:09 <@Tutor> +c prevents the use of coloured text on a channel. [L27]
20:10 <@Tutor> +C prevents the use of channel CTCPs (e.g. /CTCP #channel VERSION). These are special messages that people can use to find out information about your client etc. [L28]
20:10 <@Tutor> +i makes your channel invite only. This means users must be invited into the channel by a channel operator before they can join. Use /invite <nickname> <channel> for this purpose. [L29]
20:10 <@Tutor> +k sets a password on your channel. Only users who know the password may join (by using /JOIN <channel> <password>). This is set by using /MODE <channel> +k <password>. [L30]
20:10 <@Tutor> +n prevents people from sending external messages to the channel, i.e. they must be on the channel itself to send messages to it. [L31]
20:10 <@Tutor> +r only allows users who have authenticated with Q to join. We spoke about Q in the last tutorial. [L32]
20:10 <@Tutor> +s makes your channel secret. People will be unable to view the users on the channel or the topic. The channel will also not show up when you /WHOIS the user or use /LIST. [L33]
20:11 <@Tutor> Finally, +t prevents people who are not channel operators from setting the topic. It is recommended you set at least channel modes +n and +t. [L34]
20:11 <@Tutor> More information about these modes (and others) is available in the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org [L35]
20:11 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L36]
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20:11 <@Tutor> Darky| asked: can you tell all the modes?
20:11 <@Tutor> magpie answers: All channel and user modes available on QuakeNet are described in the IRC FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:11 <@Tutor> berlinophant asked: what's op?
20:11 <@Tutor> Salt answers: An op can set channel modes, op and voice users and kick and ban users. They control a channel, and only op those people you trust.
20:12 <@Tutor> cp`pepe asked: what is the meaning of +p
20:12 <@Tutor> Darko answers: +p channels are listed in /list, +s are not
20:12 <@Tutor> Silverhawk asked: What does the +D mode stand for (as this channel has this mode)?
20:12 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: This is Auditorium mode. You won't see people joining the channel unless they say something or are opped/voiced.
20:12 <@Tutor> pistalj asked: what's voice?
20:12 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Voice status allows a user to speak while a channel is moderated.
20:13 <@Tutor> TPC|wZ^Screamer asked: what does +N (not +n) ?
20:13 <@Tutor> Darko answers: There is no such channel flag
20:13 <@Tutor> Deejay|-|AlienZ asked: how do i send an external msg?
20:13 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: /msg #channel <message>
20:13 <@Tutor> Demliz[o_O] asked: how does a channel get trust ?
20:13 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Trusts are for hosts, not channels. Check the Trusts FAQ at www.quakenet.org for more information.
20:13 <@Tutor> vpr asked: is it possible to set +C at an user?
20:13 <@Tutor> Darko answers: No
20:14 <@Tutor> sibbi`awa asked: how do a make more then three bans? and what is +b?
20:14 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: You can ban up to 6 hostmasks at a time by using /mode #channel +bbbbbb <six hostmasks>
20:14 >> URL 9 stored
20:14 <@Tutor> _greyfox_ asked: Is that ban command right? /mode #channel +b BUFKA!xxx@pD9E12FC4.dip.t-dialin.net
20:14 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Yes
20:15 <@Tutor> ruostekorva asked: how to kick a bot who got a ban protect?
20:15 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: Remove all his chanflags, if any, deop him, ban him and kick him
20:15 <@Tutor> Pehmolelu asked: How i ban IP ?
20:15 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Type: /mode #channel +b *!*@ip.address
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20:15 <@Tutor> We will now move on to the use of QuakeNet's lightweight channel service bot: L. [L37]
20:16 >> URL 10 stored
20:16 <@Tutor> To protect your channel from possible takeovers we recommend that you request the L bot. Details about how to do this are in the L FAQ at http://www.quakenet.org/ [L38]
20:16 <@Tutor> Once you have L you will obviously need to know how to use it. We'll give a short introduction here, but the main source of advice is in the L FAQ. [L39]
20:16 <@Tutor> To be able to use L, you must be authed with Q. This has to be done every time your client connects to QuakeNet. Once authed you will be able to send commands to L: /msg L <command>. You can also retreive help on any command using /msg L help <command>. [L40]
20:16 <@Tutor> The main use of L is to protect your channel and to auto-op any people that you tell it to. This is done by giving people what is known as a 'CHANLEV'. This is a collection of flags that you can give a user, which determine their privileges on that channel. [L41]
20:16 <@Tutor> Available CHANLEV flags for L are: a = auto, g = give, m = master, n = owner, o = channel operator, v = voice. Flags are combined to determine how L behaves when the user enters the channel. [L42]
20:16 <@Tutor> Giving a user +v or +o on its own will not appear to do anything. They must be combined with +g or +a respectively, to automatically voice or op the user upon joining. Note: +g only works with +v. To auto-op you must use +ao. [L43]
20:17 <@Tutor> CHANLEVs are set using /msg L CHANLEV <channel> <nickname> +|-flags. If the user is offline, you may replace <nickname> with #<auth name>. [L44]
20:17 <@Tutor> The master and owner flags are different. They determine a user's ability to alter people's CHANLEVs and recover the channel after a takeover. Owners have full control over the bot, so be VERY careful when adding new owners. Masters however can add or remove people, but cannot touch anybody with the master or owner flag. Again, only give this to people you completely trust. [L45]
20:17 <@Tutor> There will be more on L in the next tutorial. [L46]
20:17 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L47]
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20:17 <@Tutor> l0aded asked: how to i hide my ip?
20:17 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: With the usermode +x you can "hide" your host/ip from other users. (only if authed). //mode $me +x
20:17 <@Tutor> Tereoplasmatiko asked: what can master / owner do more than ops?
20:17 <@Tutor> Salt answers: They control the L or Q bot on the channel there. They are service bots which can give ops and voice to known users.
20:18 <@Tutor> Bloood^ asked: When does L leave a channel, eg inactivity
20:18 <@Tutor> magpie answers: If nobody with a CHANLEV on that channel enters for 20 days, or the user count is below 4 for a sufficient period of time, L will leave the channel.
20:19 <@Tutor> blacknoir asked: can more than one have +n on L ?
20:19 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Yes, but be warned. Owners can remove other owners from the bot.
20:19 <@Tutor> FuN-Drake|Work asked: I have 20 users who get auto-ops in L and cant add any more so i want to remove some but it wont let me. Do they have to be in the channel before i can remove them from L? Is there any other way i can do it?
20:19 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: You can remove someone by typing /msg L chanlev #channel -flags #authname. So instead of a nickname, specify an authname prefixed with #
20:20 <@Tutor> [EG]gone\afk asked: What does +g(give) do? Just auto? If yes, why 2 auto commands?
20:20 <@Tutor> Salt answers: +g will only give 'auto-whatever' upto the level of voice, +a will do voice and ops. For example, having +gov on a channel will mean you get voice when you enter and get ops via /msg l op #channel. Having +aov will give you ops when you join.
20:20 <@Tutor> pv`CA|Birckin asked: what difference is between +g and +a?
20:20 <@Tutor> magpie answers: As said by Tutor, +g will work with +v to auto-voice a user. +g with +o will NOT auto-op a user however, the +a level must be given instead.
20:20 <@Tutor> Happy-Harry asked: Can you get more then 3 auth per email address, if u run a bot service with a trust?
20:20 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: Solution: Auth all the bots with the same auth. Better overview.
20:20 <@Tutor> Stridspitten asked: can i change my authname?
20:20 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: No. You'd have to register again
20:20 <@Tutor> Pipa`afk asked: FuN-Drake|Work asked: I have 20 users who get auto-ops in L [...] L could have more than 20 chanlevs , i think ~30
20:20 <@Tutor> Salt answers: L can know you in 20 channels. L can know 30 people in a specific channel.
20:20 <@Tutor> mirage` asked: it is /msg L chanlev #channel #authname -flags not /msg L chanlev #channel -flags #authname
20:20 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: Yes you're right, sorry
20:21 <@Tutor> nauris35 asked: my friend rupaul asks How can you delete your q account
20:21 <@Tutor> Salt answers: You can't delete your account. If you don't use your account for 40 days, then it will be removed on a periodic cleanup.
20:22 <@Tutor> BK][FlowMarkt asked: is it allowed to get the sourcecode of L ?
20:22 >> URL 14 stored
20:22 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Yes, see http://dev-com.quakenet.org for details.
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20:22 <@Tutor> ----
20:22 <@Tutor> Now that you have added users to L, you will need to know how to recover your channel in the event of a takeover. [L48]
20:22 <@Tutor> Firstly, we cannot stress enough that you should only give channel operator status to people you trust completely. [L49]
20:22 <@Tutor> In the event that somebody does take over your channel, the best way to recover it is to contact the owner/master (people with +n or +m CHANLEV). [L50]
20:22 <@Tutor> Once you have contacted the owner/master, they may use /MSG L RECOVER <channel>. This will deop everybody in the channel and remove and bans or channel flags that prevent you from entering. [L51]
20:23 <@Tutor> Anybody with a CHANLEV of at least +o can attempt to recover the channel, but this is not always as effect and is beyond the scope of this tutorial. Full details are included in the L FAQ however. [L52]
20:23 <@Tutor> We will now pause to answer any of your questions. Remember, to ask type /msg Tutor <your question here>. [L53]
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20:23 <@Tutor> ----
20:23 <@Tutor> [k2000]masken asked: Will you be able to "L-ban" people in the future?
20:23 <@Tutor> Salt answers: No need really, you can ban them via *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org and aslong as none of your ops remove the ban, that auth is banned from the channel (even if they don't set +s).
20:23 <@Tutor> doom^gladiator asked: can i set topic with L
20:23 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No.
20:24 <@Tutor> blacknoir asked: can i kick via L ?
20:24 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No.
20:24 <@Tutor> Die2Hawk- asked: [19:22:51] [@Tutor] Salt answers: No need really, you can ban them via *!*@authname.users.quakenet.org and aslong as none of your ops remove the ban, that auth is banned from the channel (even if they don't set +s). [...] you mean +x
20:24 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Opps, yes, +x :)
20:25 <@Tutor> jusT^IcE|lYnX asked: who is allowed with which flags to use recover, deopall, clearchan ?
20:25 <@Tutor> magpie answers: +m or +n is needed to RECOVER or DEOPALL, +o, +m or +n is needed to CLEARCHAN.
20:25 <@Tutor> Happy-Harry asked: Can you get more then 3 auth per email address, if u run a bot service with a trust? we have 50 bots and 1 auth only allows 20 chans what do i do?
20:25 >> URL 15 stored
20:25 <@Tutor> Zyberdog answers: If you then assign ONE auth per bot, and makes email alias' for each bot. On your server, like: botnick1@server.com etc. You can do it :)
20:25 <@Tutor> blubbb asked: could i transfer L from channel1 to channel2?
20:25 <@Tutor> Darko answers: No. You have to remove L from the first channel by removing all added users, then request again for the new channel
20:25 <@Tutor> thundeR`` asked: what does recover actually do?
20:25 <@Tutor> magpie answers: RECOVER performs DEOPALL, CLEARCHAN and UNBANALL on a channel.
20:26 <@Tutor> Viperian asked: Does L log what goes on in the channel?
20:26 <@Tutor> Darko answers: well for starters L can't be compared with S - S is an anti spam service, L isn't
20:26 <@Tutor> ESL|lokirulez asked: how can i make a channel in auditorium mode?
20:26 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: /mode #channel +D
20:26 <@Tutor> Dunkie|[CS] asked: where can i Download azuka ??
20:26 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Check the Development link at www.quakenet.org
20:27 >> ----
20:27 <@Tutor> ----
20:27 <@Tutor> In the final part of this tutorial we remind you again about security issues with your Q account. [L54]
20:27 <@Tutor> Q is always called Q. All Quakenet services always have single character names, and never have punctuation in them. Be very wary of anyone with a name like `Q or Q_, they will often be trying to decieve you. [L55]
20:27 <@Tutor> Also be aware of anybody with a name like NickServ_. QuakeNet does not use NickServ or ChanServ, so people with nicknames like these are also trying to deceive you. [L56]
20:27 <@Tutor> We have now reached the end of this Quakenet #tutorial session, thank you for coming. [L57]
20:27 <@Tutor> We would like to thank the people that helped make this tutorial possible : [L58]
20:28 <@Tutor> The operator and helper staff that helped to draft this tutorial, and are in #help and #feds to answer your questions. [L59]
20:28 <@Tutor> The tutors that have helped answer your questions here tonight. [L60]
20:28 >> URL 16 stored
20:28 <@Tutor> And finally we would like to thank you for any feedback you can provide. A new forum has been provided for this, and is available at http://www.quakenet.org/phpBB2/ . [L61]
20:28 <@Tutor> This concludes tonight's session. Check the website for details of future sessions as they become available. [62]
20:28 <@Tutor> Good night, and thanks for attending. [L63]
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20:29 <@Tutor> raket asked: how do i ban L from my channel?
20:29 <@Tutor> Salt answers: You cannot, if you want to remove it, you need to be owner and you need to remove everyone's flags, yours last, and L will leave.
20:29 <@Tutor> playaz|`sfx asked: how do i auth on quakenet
20:29 >> URL 17 stored
20:29 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Get yourself a Q account (/msg Q help hello) and then type /msg Q@CServe.quakenet.org AUTH username password
20:30 <@Tutor> edc|aIrChIcKeN asked: how can i request q?
20:30 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Q is currently unavailable for request. You may, however, use L instead.
20:31 <@Tutor> c3o asked: Why is Q better then L and why does some channels have it?
20:31 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Q has some more advanced features. L has just the basic commands to look after your channel. Q used to be the only channel bot you could get from QuakeNet, and it used to be available to large channels a few months ago (although Q is currently not requestable)
20:32 <@Tutor> angsteh`write asked: what is asuka?
20:32 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Asuka is the name give to the IRC server software used on QuakeNet.
20:32 <@Tutor> deepsleeper asked: is anyone able to hack my auth from Q or L ?
20:32 <@Tutor> Darko answers: No. Q auths cannot be hacked - although, your computer can
20:32 <@Tutor> Pehmolelu asked: Do you remember how many people is needed to be in channel and how long to get Q when its availabe?
20:32 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Check the Q FAQ at www.quakenet.org
20:32 <@Tutor> [KwaM]B-BOY asked: a friend has helped me get L to my room, how do i transfer the ownership to me?
20:32 <@Tutor> magpie answers: If your friend requested L then he/she will have to transfer the ownership. See /msg L HELP CHANLEV for more details.
20:33 <@Tutor> Viruz-kaffe^afk asked: Why are the topic removed sometimes in my channel (I have L and it's only when I'm not in there)
20:33 <@Tutor> Darko answers: If your channel is empty (only L) for a period of time, L will temporarily leave it to save resources
20:33 <@Tutor> Anti-Steam|AP asked: how do i load the users that are in the channel to my userlist when mode +D is on?
20:33 <@Tutor> Salt answers: If you mean make them appear, do /names -d #channel for the list of invisible users, then voice them via /mode #channel +vvvvvv nick1 nick2 nick3 nick4 nick5 nick6
20:34 <@Tutor> oskie asked: how can you find out what users have +o or +m on your channel on L?
20:34 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: /msg L chanlev #channel
20:34 <@Tutor> Viruz-kaffe^afk asked: What's including "save resources"
20:34 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Every server on the network has to keep a record of the channels that are in use. By leaving a channel, L frees memory on every server (including itself).
20:34 <@Tutor> Tiger99 asked: [20:35:12] [@Tutor] Darko answers: If your channel is empty (only L) for a period of time, L will temporarily leave it to save resources <--- does this also remove the channel key ?
20:34 <@Tutor> Darko answers: Yes, and all other modes
20:35 <@Tutor> ESL|lokirulez asked: how can i find out who has flags on a channel if i am not master/owner?
20:35 <@Tutor> magpie answers: If you have a CHANLEV on the channel simply type /msg L chanlev #channel. If you don't have a chanlev you cannot find out.
20:35 <@Tutor> |br|TheDon asked: I heard that L contains spyware that tracks the urls that are posted in irc rooms, and this is how quakenet makes money. is this true?
20:35 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: Answer is easy. No, it's nonsense.
20:35 <@Tutor> Shadikka asked: What would be a good use of the +..err...what was that only autheds can join-mode? ^^;
20:35 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Most flood clones aren't authed. So if your channel is being flooded then you could set +r and help stop the problem. Setting +r will stop most attempts at flooding yet still allow normal users join it.
20:36 <@Tutor> smorre-29kr asked: how do i make L go away ?
20:36 <@Tutor> magpie answers: If you are the owner, simply remove all users from L (yourself last). Once the last user is removed L will leave the channel.
20:38 <@Tutor> ESL|lokirulez asked: Does +D only work in channels with Q in?
20:38 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, it works in any channel.
20:38 <@Tutor> VaMpGeCO asked: what is l?
20:38 <@Tutor> Darko answers: the 12th letter in the alphabet
20:38 <@Tutor> naLzi asked: why dont you answer my question?
20:38 <@Tutor> Salt answers: Maybe we missed it, we have a fair few questions asked.
20:39 <@Tutor> icy- asked: what is +d channel mode good for? it comes when you do -D
20:39 <@Tutor> magpie answers: It indicates that there are still hidden users in your channel, although all new joiners will be visible. When all users become visible the mode is automatically removed.
20:40 <@Tutor> ind`ck` asked: I cant get add users to L, when is Q getting backup ?
20:40 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: If you mean your channel's chanlev on L is getting full, you could consider using an eggdrop or another bot to op people.
20:40 <@Tutor> naLzi asked: Why can't you add a banning comand like in Q to L?
20:40 <@Tutor> Darko answers: L is lightweight - a resource saver
20:41 <@Tutor> GoS-generelt asked: Am I the only person on this channel?
20:41 <@Tutor> magpie answers: No, this channel has a delayed-join mode set. See the IRC FAQ for more details (www.quakenet.org), and look up chanmode +D.
20:41 <@Tutor> Dev2000 asked: how do i stop colous appearing in my channel
20:41 <@Tutor> Voronoi answers: As said before, set channelmode +c and people won't be able to send colored messages to your channels any longer
20:41 <@Tutor> SuzZ^ asked: What does n stand for?
20:41 <@Tutor> Darko answers: In the context of channel modes, "No external messages". In Q and L, "Owner"
20:42 <@Tutor> GoS-generelt asked: what does +v do? nothing?
20:42 <@Tutor> magpie answers: +v signifies voice. It allows a user to talk while the channel is moderated.
20:43 <@Tutor> WStalzarion asked: lo m8 how do u kick some1 from a chanel
20:43 <@Tutor> magpie answers: Type /KICK <channel> <nickname> [<reason>]
20:44 <@Tutor> BK][FlowMarkt asked: could you please give a "tutorial" of all channel modes? (Like +m,+n) and why cant you use halfop ?
20:44 <@Tutor> Darko answers: Er, that's what we did just now - Halfop cannot be used because it's not implented
20:44 <@Tutor> [KwaM]B-BOY asked: what is the command for L to show me all the flagged users and their mode?
20:44 <@Tutor> magpie answers: /msg L CHANLEV #channel
20:44 <@Tutor> Legi0n asked: how do i add people in L
20:44 <@Tutor> magpie answers: With the CHANLEV command. Type /msg L HELP CHANLEV for more details.
20:45 <@Tutor> Vegeta` asked: What's going on when I try to join a channel, but mIRC gives me the message "Cannot join channel (access denied on this server)"?
20:45 <@Tutor> magpie answers: It means that QuakeNet has banned that channel from the network.
20:46 <@Tutor> Viruz-kaffe^afk asked: Is there any place I can read more about L's save resources-stuff? And when does L come back? Is L always coming back as someone join the channel, or? (Sry 4 spam-msg but since you don't answer it I suppose you miss it)
20:46 <@Tutor> magpie answers: I believe there was a newspost on the QuakeNet website about it. Have a search. If L has left temporarily it will rejoin automatically as soon as a user enters the channel.
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20:48 <@Tutor> Tonight's tutorial session has now ended. Thank you for attending.
20:48 <@Tutor> Remember, we welcome your comments. A new forum has been set up on the QuakeNet website (www.quakenet.org) for this.
20:48 <@Tutor> Details of the next tutorial will be posted there, and also in the topic of this channel.
20:49 (!) Q changed the topic of #tutorial to: QuakeNet tutorial channel - Next tutorial session to be arranged. Details will be posted to forum and this topic.
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